arnold exposed! learn all about your future (if not your next) president!

green party all the way. but common arnold is one of the best the republicans have to offer.

i wouldn't even call him a republican...there's nothing 'conservative' about him really...

it doesn't matter though. voting for president is pointless, it's all staged, and has been since kennedy got his head blown off...

the real key areas are at the local and state levels. getting people elected, whether democrat or republican or any other party, who will uphold the bill of rights and constitution is what we need, who will resist the federal takeover and martial law when the time comes.

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i wouldn't even call him a republican...there's nothing 'conservative' about him really...

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fiscally hes conservative, but socialy hes liberal. Also he was GIVEN TIME TO SPEAK AT THE republican national convention so that makes him republican in my book. Why wuld he fake being republican anyway he could have won the govenership in cali if he were an independent or even a democtat.

also hes one of the only republican poloticians i can stomach

He can't run, he's from Austria.

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He can't run, he's from Austria.

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its a hypothetical question.
also there is a push to change the law that you have to be born in this country to run for president.

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its a hypothetical question.
also there is a push to change the law that you have to be born in this country to run for president.

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I know that. They aren't going to change the law, so no worries :-D

they sure are going to try.

Arnie speaks even worse english than bush, and thats a statement. Pisshead, you should read the book It can't happen here by Sinclair Lewis. It's about how fragile democracy is, how facism could grip America, and what would have happened if America took the side of the Nazis in World War Two. You'll love it.

we aren't a democracy first of all. and it's the socialism that fuels the fascism that's destroying the country. the left sees all the corruption on the right, and vice versa, but neither can see it on their own side. they both accept the same policies offered by loyal opposition. the socialism creates the need for fascism, and you get it both ways, because in the end, it's just tyranny, not liberal or conservative tyranny, basic dictatorship. the left/right is the big divide, then they conquer.

and there were plans in the 30's to take the side of the nazis...documents were recently declassified and extensively covered by former presidential candidate who won in a primary in NH i think it was, john buchanan.

the interview is online somewhere i think. i have an interview with him from the protest at the RNC this past september talking about how the US dealt with the nazis prior to the holocaust and during, and after. but that's on my hard drive.

but search google for john buchanan london guardian, it should show up.

and i will look into that book.

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we aren't a democracy first of all. and it's the socialism that fuels the fascism that's destroying the country.

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i say itz the greed and lust of materialism which is a symptom of un-checked capitalism that is destroying this country. I dont see that socialism leads facism, i see the opposite i see socialism in its true form is meant to unite and find the things in common which is the polar opposite of facism which is the belief in tthe superiority of one group of people. What leads to facism is ultra-patriotism and the practice of labeling legitimit criticizing of ones country as un-patriotic. I see the republican party as becoming very facist esp. after it merged with the moral majority back in the eighties.