Good luck my northern brothers, I hope you don't have to deal with the same door busting, money snatching drug politics we have down here!!!!
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Good luck my northern brothers, I hope you don't have to deal with the same door busting, money snatching drug politics we have down here!!!!
Well to be optimistic. I dont think many canadians would allow them to take the american approach. It's just so obviously wrong.
it is wrong. the US spends soooo much money putting people into jail for marijuana use, and paying for unneccessary rehab, and spending money on police and dea enforcement to combat this harmless drug.
the US also has the worst rates of people using drugs. why adopt a policy that often has a reverse effect/effectiveness?
[align=center]Harpers on DRUGS
:chainsaw:
Thinking a US based approch is the way to go.
Harper and his party have for the most part alowed them selves to be swayed by US policy's
This is Canada Harper not US if you don't like it here move to the US
This is the kind of shit thats not needed
Guess I will take a bong hit to calm down now :bonghit: [/align]
P.S. will write my MP and tell him why I think this is a blow to our Soverenty
My Edits in RED or should i say remarks.
Happy New Year and what a thing to read on a new year :jointsmile:
Monday » January
1 » 2007
Canada looks to USA for drug policy hints
Peter O'Neil
Vancouver Sun
Tuesday, December 12, 2006
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OTTAWA -- Conservative cabinet ministers and their aides are consulting with
"keen" U.S. government officials (Keen to tell us what to do and how to run our country)on a new national drug strategy for Canada,
according to internal documents obtained by The Vancouver Sun.
"There have been various senior-level meetings between U.S. officials and
ministers/ministers' offices," states a summary of a June 16, 2006 meeting on
the Tory drug initiative, involving bureaucrats at nine federal departments and
agencies. Back room Hidden meetings and agendas make one not trust the goverment)
"U.S. officials have been keen to discuss drug issues with the current
government."
Prime Minister Stephen Harper's 2006 election platform promised a new drug
strategy that would include a national youth awareness strategy.
Harper also called for mandatory minimum sentences and large fines for serious
drug offenders, including marijuana growing operators and "producers and
dealers of crystal meth and crack."
The Tory government has since come under criticism for taking a tough,
U.S.-style approach to drug crime while downplaying the so-called "harm
reduction" approach that led to the 2003 establishment of the supervised
injection site for Vancouver's drug addicts.
The five-page summary, obtained through the Access to Information Act,
noted that John Walters, director of the U.S. Office of National Drug Control
Policy, and a frequent critic of Canadian drug policy under the Liberals -- was
planning to visit Canada this autumn.
"The meeting was postponed for scheduling reasons. It's anticipated the
meeting will take place early in the new year," said Rodney Moore, a
spokesman for Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada.
The Canadian national drug strategy will be launched in the fall or winter, the
documents note, after which Canadian diplomats "will need to do outreach with
the U.S. and our like-minded countries."( narow minded countries that is)
The strategy will focus on "a few key priority areas that the current
government could focus and build on," such as "clandestine labs, marihuana
grow operations, synthetic drugs," the document states. "Another key element
of the proposed national strategy is the national awareness campaign for
youth." (another usless DARE campain ??? )
The document also cites government plans to toughen laws for drug-impaired
driving. Justice Minister Vic Toews has tabled legislation on that matter.
Mike Storeshaw, a spokesman for Toews, said he couldn't speculate on when
the strategy will be announced.( Later the better and rethink the war on drugs but then there on drugs even thinking of following the ill fated war on drugs)
Storeshaw said the Canada-U.S. meetings make sense given the concerns
shared by both countries about cross-border crime. "Obviously ministers
interact with their counterparts internationally. Americans are important
counterparts especially when it comes to drug crime," he said. "Drugs are one
of the prime motivators for crime, (prohibition made it a crime and it was not based on fact when it was done)particularly cross-border crime."
Neil Boyd, a criminologist at Simon Fraser University, said U.S. interest in
Canada's drug plans is no surprise.( with the DEA having offices in Canada. and trying to bring Canadians to face trials in the US Mark Emery for exaple )
"The Harper government favours a U.S.-style approach to drug problems,
which is to lock more people up and don't treat it as a health problem, treat it(Why he wants to follow a flawed approch is beyond sensable)
as a criminal law problem of morality," Boyd said. "That's very much at odds
with what's going on in Europe and there's really no good evidence to suggest that it's going to be terribly useful."
New Democratic Party MP Libby Davies, whose Vancouver East riding includes
the supervised injection facility in the Downtown Eastside, said the Harper
government appears to be "taking orders" from the American. "We have
made-in-Canada policies that are working," she said. "Why isn't [Harper]
looking to Europe and the successes they've had there?"
(blind followers can't see or chose not to see a system that works. Or we must somewere in one of the secretive meetings been told there may be trade sanctions against us is what i bet !!!)
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story can be heard online after 10:30 a.m. today at
www.vancouversun.com/readaloud.
© The Vancouver Sun 2006
Copyright © 2007 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.
It is interesting that the info and to be forced from the goverment using the freedom of information act. :mad: to bring it out to the public. :mad:
You can feel free to correct me if you want im not perfect :p
There are two things good about this country; British Columbia, and the Government policies. And I don't live in British Columbia...
Good old BC, huh? This kinda shit isn't happening here! I can have 12 plants lit by 12000 watts if I want...because DRAWING electricity isn't ILLEGAL here... Does anyone know of any laws like this in the US?
Hydro will target suspected B.C. grow ops
04-19-06 | Sookenewsmirror.Com | Kevin Diakiw
Heavy users of electricity will be reported to police under new B.C. legislation.
Near the end of this month, municipalities will have BC Hydro records on demand, data which will be turned over to police to determine whether spikes in power use were caused by a marijuana grow operation.
Marijuana grow ops require high power consumption, typically three to 10 times the amount used by a normal home.
"This amendment will help local authorities target and shut down marijuana grow operations more quickly and more efficiently," Minister of Public Safety John Les said in the legislature Thursday, as he introduced Bill 25. "With these amendments, municipalities will now be able to obtain information from electricity companies about residences with unusual power consumption."
The names and addresses of the account holders will now be given to local authorities to investigate whether their homes contain a grow operation, he said.
One of the main impediments to the program, investigators say, has been the time-consuming process of acquiring BC Hydro information through the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (FOI). To obtain an FOI request, the city first had to have tips from neighbours. Now the investigation process will be reversed: power records first, then assessment.
Launched last year, the Electrical Fire Safety Initiative (EFSI) involved fire, police, bylaw and building inspectors tracking high energy use and posting a notice that the home will be inspected in 48 hours.
Len Garis, Surrey Fire Chief, acknowledges the new legislation will be controversial.
"The new program may be viewed by some as an infringement of privacy, however it is believed that the public's safety is more compelling and outweighs any privacy rights," Garis said.
I totally read a similar article to that, discussing how the police will be handed unusual electricity bills. However, the article I read inferred that the cops wouldn't care so much about the plants, but about the unsafe power consumption. It sorta hinted that cops would only charge you for safety shit (for endangering your neighborhood) and not for the actual growing. anyone else hear this?
I love how Harper is talking about this "Awareness campaing for Teens." All these awareness campaigns fail miserably and only work on the kids who are already stupid enough to believe that doing drugs is morally wrong. It's so frustrating that we have a perfect model in Amsterdam, a fairly decent model with Britain, and yet Canada is turning to the biggest failures of all, The United States! They get high on the bible for godssakes.