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My speech is not flawed, I speak the word of God. The day will come when we will all be convinced. Every eye shall see him. He will govern the earth. He will reign in Jerusalem. He is the KING of kings. :dance:
If you speak against his word, you'll be found a liar. God is true. :smokin:
okay, when he does magically show up and start doin miracles THEN i'll believe him. it would have to be a verifiable miracle tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
A whole lot of mystical speach backed with conviction in the words isn't going to convince anyone. You can say all these "facts" that you want, the same facts that almost every generation has believed, but it never happen's. If your belief is really legitimate and not based on an emotional conviction, or a belief so ingrained that you won't even question it or analyze the facts against it, then show some real evidence of it, not more cryptic warnings that you think carry weight because you declare them as absolute truths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
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If you speak against his word, you'll be found a liar. God is true. :smokin:
You sure like to throw the word "liar" around a lot. A liar would indicate somebody who knows the truth, but tells a lie to cover up the truth. To intentionally mislead. A liar is not somebody with a false belief, somebody who's theory is wrong, or somebody who dares question what so many just declare to be unquestionable facts.
actually, you seem to be making a logical flaw setting atheism counter to a belief in christian doctrine and creationism rather than the belief in god, which can take form in many ways. Albeit some less logical than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by harris7
Not that I'm coming down one way or the other. I consider myself to be rather agnostic, although not agnostic in the way that Devious would define it.
Something I am in fact quite certain of however, is that Richard Dawkins is a bit of a hack. If a very outspoken and well publicized hack at that...
Why doesn't everyone believe in god? Why after all these eons are we still debating this.There is no evidence for any god.How many people here believe in Odin? You can't prove that he doesn't exist, so therefore he does.Do you see why this argument doesn't work.
If more believers did honest research into the bible we would have less believers and less violence in the world.
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Originally Posted by Polymirize
I dont really know what you mean, could you go on.
i'm not saying atheism is opposite to Christianity. or any religion.
I dont believe atheism is a belief. For me it is the lack of a belief.
Since i lack belief in god I am an atheist
by a conclusion i mean that the conclusion is not to accept the belief.
I guess my point was that this was kinda a strawman...Quote:
Originally Posted by harris7
i dont' believe in any type of god, or religion, call that whatever you want, i've just always known it as atheist... if that is wrong, and i'm agnostic, please correct me as i never reallly understood the diffrence.... actually my grandma taught me atheism is not believing and agnostic is hating god... i learned later agnostic does not mean to hate god...
i really don't understand how anyone can pick up a book, which is obviously written by man, and take it as total fact and impossible that it is fake... it's always baffled me.. i mean you dont' see everyone picking up a science fiction novel and thinking in 20 years that aliens are going to come invade planet earth do you?
meh i should probably clarify the above statement, i don't and won't believe in any god or religion UNLESS i am shown viable ROCK HARD evidence otherwise... basicly when god walks up to me, or i see him walking down the street.... words mean nothing, especially words writen over 2,000 years ago, by man.
haha you got it sussed