Congress to hear on draft next year...

I'm against reinstating the military draft. This kind of protectionism is unnecessary. An all-volunteer force is more effective in a free society than a conscripted one. This isn't North Korea where people are brain-washed into believing it's necessary to serve and fight for their country and would be willing to sacrifice themselves. Didn't we learn that in Vietnam? The rich would find ways to get their kids avoid the draft anyway. The bill is going to be riddled with exemptions for that purpose. Why dilute the moral of the recruitment pool with people that don't believe in fighting a war? At least the ones fighting now knew what they were getting into.

It may help make politicians think twice before authorizing a war, but at the cost of a less effective military and punishing individuals and their families that don't want any part of the conflict. Instead, politicians and the military should restore the values they use to uphold that caused Americans to believe that fighting the right conflict is honorable.

The guy introduced this bill before, and then voted against his own bill. Just a publicity stunt.

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Originally Posted by andruejaysin

The guy introduced this bill before, and then voted against his own bill. Just a publicity stunt.

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Maybe so but at the time I don't think N.Korria and Iran were really being looked at like they are today. And if we increase troops in Iraq and something goes down elseware that we send off another 150,000-/+ troops. Then you need more reserves to releave those who are fighting.

The bare minimum to invade iran has been figured at 400,000. And as you said, they have to be rotated out, so over a million.

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

The reason why the Democrats are sponsoring this is simple: they don't think it's fair that the families of the wealthy rarely end up in combat, and instead that burden is heaped onto the backs of the poor and middle class. With a draft, the wealthy aren't so well-insulated from doing the dirty work (that they're so good at making necessary in the first place).

So, all-in-all, I guess I'm in favor of registering for a draft, and if we really NEED more soldiers, okay...but don't let the wealthy slack off; they need to do their share too, and see what it's like for the common man. There'll be a lot fewer wars and conflicts if the rich folks' children are in danger too. It's just too easy to vote for war or use of military force when you know YOUR children won't be involved.

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I agree with you totally. Actually...not totally but half-way. I only stop at half way because I'm one of those to-be 18 yr olds in America that agree with your "rich men need to be affected too whe it comes to proposing or declaring war" theory, but wouldn't necessarily like having his ass shot at over sea's either.

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Originally Posted by VoidLivesOn

I agree with you totally. Actually...not totally but half-way. I only stop at half way because I'm one of those to-be 18 yr olds in America that agree with your "rich men need to be affected too whe it comes to proposing or declaring war" theory, but wouldn't necessarily like having his ass shot at over sea's either.

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...I wish ..I had a dollar..for every time...I've heard that..before....But...I haven't heard it since FEB 72..[Until now]..the last month of the REAL draft....no one drafted after that....the war had ended.


Thanks...Hamlet

One issue that nobody addresses, regrading the draft, is women. Shouldn't they be included if the draft is reinstated? Wouldn't it be discrimination to only take males?

In an "equal" society, women must be subject to the same laws as men.

I think that a "professional" military, rather than the draft, is a better system.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

One issue that nobody addresses, regrading the draft, is women. Shouldn't they be included if the draft is reinstated? Wouldn't it be discrimination to only take males?

In an "equal" society, women must be subject to the same laws as men.

I think that a "professional" military, rather than the draft, is a better system.

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whats a professional military?

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Originally Posted by VoidLivesOn

whats a professional military?

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Volunteer, non-draft, etc. People that choose it as a career - preferably very capable enlistees.

http://www.military.com/militarycareers

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Fuck the draft. I would never go off to war to fight.

Lets see how well this new "liberal" Congress will do. It's a big fucking joke. :thumbsup:

Republicrats!!!

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Back in 04 all the dems were saying...Bush will bring back the draft....



now its the dems talking Draft...LOL


So Gs you would never go fight for the USA. Really, i though you would have. Mybad....