increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
ps, this is a reminder that n e thing i say is PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. i get my kicks by PRETENDING to do things im not supposed to:D
so dont take me too seriously:)
love, kp:p
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
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increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
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increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
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jay, your post is #13.:stoned:
did you do that on purpose?:cool:
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increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
I know this is lengthy but it seem very informative on the subject of cytokinin, remember this is random info found on the net so bring a grain of salt:
I picked up a bottle of this the other day, It claims to promote flowering and such. Looking around the net it seems to be highly regarded by those in the "growth" field.
Has anyone tried this on herb ??? If so I would be interested in hearing the results.
Thanks Cytokinin
What brand did you buy? Seaweed extracts are usually the source in most commercial products. Pep Up was an old product from Nitron, I used to use. I believe to have cytokinins in my recipe, hehe.
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I've used Green Light's Tomato Bloom Spray on all of my plants for the past two years. I think it's something like 0.0002% cytokinin as kinetin. I've never done controlled, side by side experiments as the growth rate picked up so fast after the first application I couldn't think of any reason not to use it. Cytokinin
Hi All,
AF experimented with a cytokinin spray once, and concluded it wasn't beneficial for cannabis growing. It produced buds which appeared deceptively large, but lacked the density normal for the strain involved. It also kept the plants involved from finishing normally. So, after giving the plants 2 weeks more than normal, they still hadn't produced as much by weight as they normally would. At that point my friend chose to take down that batch and call the experiment a failure. YMMV
HTH
Dr. Evil Cytokinin
Cytokins help acclerate which ever stage they are in at the time . If I remember right they also increase yield by increasing cell size . I started using them about 5 yrs ago and found that they have only helped yield ( use nitrozyme ) . Cytokinin
Most of the common plant hormones ie auxin, giberellic acid, and cytokinin used alone can produce a variety of undesirable and desirable effects. The thing to remember about these "hormones" is that are all used conjunctively naturally by the plants. When you increase only one hormone you placing stress on the others.
Review the tissue culture sample below Cytokinin
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for the best results you must understand more about the hormones you intend to use and understand that generally for optimal growth you will use these together or individually in steps Cytokinin
I'm personally more interested in the non-synthetic cytokinin Zeatin. Has anybody any pertinent information regarding its usage?
I've worked with various cytokinins and concentrations while working tissue culture. Most lately, I've applied cytokinins to a home experiment in delaying leaf senescence. Ten miligrams per liter of deionized water preserves much of chlorophyll. I hope to apply this to an accumulating 'leaf collection' of landrace varieties... Cytokinin
leaf senescence.... what a noble cause. I wonder if anyone has tried using cytokinin for clones as compared to auxin (IAA)? From the data that I've observed Kanza the effects from Zeatin and Cytokinin available in like Tomato Bloom II have the same desired effects. Getting your hands on Zeatin may be a little more trickier as it is not readily available commercially to the public. You could try remanufacturing it your self from unripened corn kernels(the source of zeatin) if it so be your thing. I'm sure that just like they applied direct coconut milk as a plant hormone the same could be done with zeatin. It would be much more organic which is most usually a good thing. Hey I say give it a shot and let us know. Cytokinin
Cytokinins do not exhibit the same effects on root growth that commercially available auxins do. I remember seeing a study on tissue culture where when exhibited to excessive amounts of auxins root growth far out performed any other growth and when excessive amounts of cytokinins were applied then shoot growth out performed all other growth. This being the case clones using cytokinins will root slower than those using auxins.
I have some personal experience to support this as when I first found the wonders of cytokinins I used them excessively for everything including pre-soaking cubes used for cloning. I found out very early that in high concentrations (>2ml nitrozyme/lt water) that rooting took longer than previously. I also experienced reduced rooting rates. I saw benfits however when I changed these levels to approx a 1/4 of that (<.5 ml nitrozyme/lt water) with a general decrease in the time taken for clones to establish roots.
As said before, hormones are quite dependent on their interaction between each other and not domination by one hormone or another. Cytokinin
Of course just as I mentioned previously, however, even if it did take longer to sprout roots your cutting should still flourish well. This is what I'm curious about. The roots sole purpose then would to be take up H2O right? Just think, with proper support you could use the tiniest of pots to grow in and still have wonderful top growth. You might still have to apply auxin to the shoots though. But most of your nutes would become obsolete right?
I know that one, (auxin or cytokinin) promotes cell division and the other supports cell elongation. I believe it is cytokinin that promotes division.
I also posted the tissue culture example above. Cytokinin
Wrong, most of the nutes will not become obsolete. Hormones are regulators of mechanisms occurring within a plants cells. They can live without hormones being added however the same can not be said if they are lacking any essential nutrients.
On top of this there is only so efficiently that you can get the roots to function so a certain amount/volume of root mass is needed to support a certain volume of vegetative canopy supplying it with nutrients whilst providing an area for gas exchange.
Making the root mass smaller is a technique used for creating bonsia's which albeit are healthy but not particularly big. Cytokinin
ok but why apply nutes if your regulating the growth with some as organic as coconut milk or unripened corn juice(Zeatin). Ok ok I take that back you would need nutes but not for "growth". Somehow I must have become entranced.. What about giant bonsai's though? Does cytokinin continually affect growth regardless of some limitations? Would it be possible to bonsai a plant and then apply cyto for some good effects? As an example cyto causes apical dominance correct? Could you bonsai a plant, apply cyto, and get a really fat cola? If it were true the wow for sog correct? I dunno just a thought, I guess I am really just adamant about plant manipulation through hormone therapy. Have you any ideas vegemite? I'm running some experiments now myself but the more the merry in my book. Cytokinin
Well this is a blast from the past... veggie, as always a pleasure to see you around. :loompa:
One thing to keep in mind is that hormones are messenger chemicals produced naturally by the plant. In the case of cytokinins, they are produced naturally by the growing root tips and are moved up the plant. Their concentration basically tells the above-ground portion of the plant how healthy the roots are. If there is lots of cytokinin in the leaves, the shoots and branches assume that the root system is doing well and the shoots will branch out. Auxin (aka IBA, NAA, etc.) works in almost exactly the opposite manner. It is produced by the growing tips and moves down the plant to the roots. If the roots see high levels of auxin, they assume that the above-ground portion of the plant is doing well, and that they (the roots) can count on a constant supply of sugars from the leaves, and so will grow more profusely. Auxin also suppresses the growth of lateral branches, it's sort of like the top bud (or apical meristem) is saying "you lower buds just hang out for now, I'm on top of things..." When you top a plant you remove the source of the auxin, so the cytokinin influence takes over and you get more growth from the lateral branches.
The interplay between the two hormones is most easily seen in the classic Christmas-tree shape of wild-type Cannabis. The branches just below the top cola are seeing the highest levels of auxin, suppressing their growth, and are also seeing the lowest levels of the cytokinins that might induce their growth. As you go down the main stem, at each node the ratio of cytokinin:auxin rises and you see progressively more lateral growth. The bottom branches are seeing the highest levels of cytokinin (they are closest to the roots), and the lowest levels of auxin (they are furthest from the top cola), so they grow the longest. Cytokinin
I would be interested in trying cytokinin as an experiment but need advice on how to apply it and at what rate. I have used it on tomatoes for awhile but just use it on the blooms. Reading this thread it seems as if people apply it at differenct times so any discussion on how to use it would be appreciated. Thanks. Cytokinin
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
KP, what happened to your thread, it was taken over by some botanist, LOL.
Good read, will need to read about 5 more times and do some cross references to really manufacture the eatable honey of the matter.
Adieu and KP I am around. I am like your guardian bear, when you think I'm not there, I am sitting on the tree stump in your thread sticking a fatty in a bowl of honey.
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
Just found this thread... I'm currently experimenting with that stuff myself!
Have to read up some more.
Thanks for starting a thread about it though. It's got some potential I think.
increases yeilds, speeds harvests; have you heard of/used this? Stinky, bluebear, gk
Where is this stuff sold? Would home depot do or is a trip to Hydroponics my best bet?:confused:
It might be interesting to try it on half of my plants and see how they do!