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Everyone is entitled to their opinion . He's simply expressing the way he and how he would suggest dealing with something like this. Do I agree with it? Doesn't matter.. he's still entitled to console and offer his :twocents: without being ridiculed.Quote:
Originally Posted by paddyahern
Nobody is trying to convert anyone..
So please don't hijack the thread.
If your going to kill yourself at least wait until your 21. Us teens make very irrational decisions at times.
paddyahern: You're an ass! Yes, that was a flame.
Creeper: You are entitled to have the feelings that you do. I very much feel the same as you, suicide is a cowards way out. But, there are just so many factors to it that eventually you have to put things in their proper perspective.
Several years ago, my brother tried to commit suicide. He was having difficulties in college, I think he was a little home sick, and he wasn't feeling like he could accomplish anything. One night, he got drunk and decided to park his car in the path of an oncoming commuter train. Thank God, a police officer was in the area, lit him up, and a short chase ensued. My brother was taken into custody (not arrested) and transferred to a hospital for evaluation.
When my family and I first heard this, we all felt the same way. "What the fuck is going through his head", "He's a punk to do something like that", etc. But when we finally had a chance to talk to him and get him to open up, we found out so many things that he had never shared...he was simply to embarrased or ashamed to tell us.
At that point, all of those negative feelings were gone. We realized that he was given a second chance and we had to help him. From anger to support is how we went. And he still had troubles for a couple of years after that, but we kept supporting him and trying to be there for him. I am so happy and proud to say that he's on the right track, close to finishing school for accounting, and is taking charge of his life. He still goes through his periods but he is also more apt to talk to us about what is bothering him and he has accepted that sometimes he needs help, so he's sees a social worker reguarly, just to talk.
Had my family and I held on to those negative feelings, it is my belief that he would have eventually attempted suicide again and made good on it. But we took advantage of that second chance. All this to say that, again, what you're feeling is normal, but you may never know all of the circumstances that led up to it. Everyone is not as strong as everyone else. Like with my brother, sometimes people don't know how to ask for help.
Feel what you're feeling, but keep it in perspective. You gotta stay strong, bro. Just hold on...
shit man, thats sucks. im sorry to hear about that. sounds like he had a pretty rough time for the past year. hope you and his family feel better soon.
He must have been really disappointed in himself and the world to do that. I've been there too. Im just sad that had to happen to you.
That sucks, I feel for you. Best of luck.
Creeper, I'm so sorry... :(
i know the feeling i feel it all the time specially moving to ohio hahah people are so fuked up here ........
Thank you all for your kind words, theyve helped in me in a way and although they wont fill the void that his death has brought they will make me feel better. Again I thank all of you.
I feel for you. I know that you are going through some serious emotions right now and your anger is understandable but I do hope you will find your way clear of it soon. Your friend was obviously in a lot of pain, too much pain for him to see clear of this moment in his life and beyond to some peace and happiness. People dont end their physical lives when they have everything going for them. That is your perception from your perspective. You will need to get past looking at it from your point of view if you are ever to heal the wounds you have from this. Losing a best friend like this is horrible and I am trying to find the words to help some of the horror leave you. I feel for you and his other friends, his girlfriend and his family.
In his perspective his life was too painful and he felt that there was no escape possible. There is nothing anyone could have done unless he himself decided to open himself to share his pain.
You said that his father committed suicide last year. I can imagine the hole that left in your friend. He was not the person inside that he portrayed on the outside. He likely never started to heal his own wounds.
For a boy/man to lose a father is beyond tragic...beyond words.
He obviously felt as though he could not go on through whatever pain he was feeling. You dont need me to tell you that. Why else would he do it?
Know that he is for now free of what tortured him, whatever that may be. In my beliefs, he is not dead. He is merely not in body. He will need to learn the lessons that his life was to teach him, in another way at another time. Your friend is eternal.
Celebrate what memories you have of him. Spend some time with his family, share your memories with them. Come together and heal together. Lean on each other, support each other. Learn from his life and his death.
Visit him in your dreams and dont bury your love for him under your anger. Try to release it because it wont serve you well.
peace.