HELLO, ARE WE ALL RETARDS?!?!?!??!?

Some geeza said that at the time when women started smoking, the product was advertised to them as a penis; it was a way of making them think that they would be more powerful with their own willy!! Women getting educated in 1800s? Then accepting having their own 20 cocks in a box sometime later... ERRRRRRRRRR, I'm not sure why I just made that remark, ERRRRRRRRRRRR Government will stitch you good and propper before giving you what you want. They'd sooner make it compulsory to have a gun in your glove box in the name of Terror so you can shoot up Mohammed down the lane, before giving in to some lame petition... where do i sign?

To be realistic.. I don't know just how effective any of those types of things will be. They only enfuriate the government and force them to take an even firmer stance on their views on the drug.

The only thing that really makes changes is the people. If it were more accepted in society, and the myths were dispelled, then we would start seeing changes. In places like New York and Denver, decriminalization has already taken place, and only small fines are given for marijuana posessions.. thats because I can atleast speak for New York, and say there is a general disregard for laws such as speeding and marijuana smoking, so both are considered to be regulated very leniently around here..

You see, the government is for the people, like you even said. The thing is, the majority of the people still look down upon Marijuana. Its still a minority that see the benefits of it, and alcohol and tobacco have proven that substance addiction is all too common, so keeping marijuana illegal is really one of the only ways they have of regulating it.

Why reinvent the wheel? All you have to do is join MPP, NORML and/or SAFER. They are using voter referendums to bypass the governments corruption and force the issue. Petitions, like Dutch Masta said, just piss them off and get ignored. Voter referendums, however, use the law to make them comply with the voters will.

A petition can be ignored. A referendum becomes the law. I like it because our officials are forced to uphold the very law they hated and fought.

These organizations are where every positive change in the marijuana laws have come from. Just like they taught in the military, reinforce success to achieve your objective.

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Originally Posted by Mercsix8six

real dumb yep i rather have it the way it is its for t he the better and if gets that way u want it them im probally not on this planet any more means (i died ) so not in ur life time sir

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You don't make any sense...

And yeah that's a good idea and all, but I'm not even sure it's legally possible to create an Amendment petition to federal government. And if it were, it would take years, decades even to get the signatures and then definitely decades while they take their sweet time verifying it. No, the more practical way would be the way we're going now, which is to take a state-oriented approach. If it's legalized in a few states, there will be hardly any federal intervention on users, people will become more open minded, and the truth may come out. I think an even better idea is public awareness. I'm still not sure why organizations like NORML and the MPP haven't spent more funding on TV, radio and print ad campaigns to counter the bullshit spread by FreeVibe, Abovetheinfluence, etc... instead of spending it entirely on political contributions, publications, merchandising, etc...

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Funding. MPP and NORML just don't have the budgets these prohibition groups do. They have to spend their money more wisely.

It is up to us, if we truly believe in this issue, to take responsibility for educating people through word of mouth. Any advertiser will tell you how important and powerful word of mouth advertising is.

Hemp4Billions has a genius idea. Most people don't realize it's an issue of personal freedom....what would be really wicked bad would be a massive petition campaign followed by a massive massive rally at the Washington Monument, where all the uber-famous celebrities who smoke can speak...I mean, this is America, right? Isn't this what we do? Ahhh...pipe dreams until we get motivated...

And the government will ignore all that effort, money and resources. In fact, they will create jokes about it. The point of a referendum over a petition is that they CAN NOT ignore it. It turns into law and they have no choice but to uphold it. THAT is how you kick the government right in the balls.

I'm all about getting everyone to truly understand what weed is all about, and dispell their ignorant thoughts on it..

But people have to want to understand this. Its like those jehovas witnesses that ring the doorbell of every street in the city. With NO interest and complete opposite beliefs of everything they are presenting, its only obvious that probably not a single person even so much as took them seriously. It works the same for anything, nobody can just go around telling people that marijuana should be made legal, when most other people are convinced it shouldn't.. and expect to make progress. Its about a general understanding that needs to take place first before any changes.

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And the government will ignore all that effort, money and resources. In fact, they will create jokes about it. The point of a referendum over a petition is that they CAN NOT ignore it. It turns into law and they have no choice but to uphold it. THAT is how you kick the government right in the balls.

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Right on, brother.

Yes, we all like staring at each others toes. :D