Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
I didn't hear Lee say that Bush or anyone blew up the levees. Actually, I didn't hear him say much of anything. That POV (which has been expressed by many people all over the world since the levees first broke) was discussed by some of the people asked to speak in the documentary. - just to help get the facts right.
Most authors/painters/directors/photographers and the like have a certain niche or genre that they focus on. Why would this particular movie director be any different?
Yes u can make people leave. They do it all the time when an evacuation is ordered. Police do sweeps, anyone found still there is arrested and/or removed. Hell, if it's legal to bust down my door, drag me out, and arrest me with no warrant in the name of national security, then I think they can do the same thing in the name of the security for citizens. The east coast has been warned that a major hurricane could hit causing massive destruction. Again, they've done their studies and found out how difficult it will be to get NYC people to leave their homes and that most don't have the resources (ie, cars) anyway. And again, NO PLANS have been made. Listen, I agree that people should've evacuated. I know I would've (even though there was no place to evacuate to). But they didn't, they needed help, and where was the gov't.
The 3 top threats to our nation - a terror attack on NY, hurricane in N.O., and a earthquake in San Fran. 2 down and the gov't sat on their asses for both. I guess some people will wait till we're 3 for 0 before they start to care. Or maybe when it affects them, happens in their neck of the woods they'll care. It was a complete failure of gov't from the bottom up. The feds are supposed to step in when city and state fails, that's what the hell they're there for. Otherwise, there would be no need for us to be a united nation. Fuck the gov't indeed, but I pay my taxes for a reason and I'm tired of not seeing a return on my investment.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
Dude, that ramble made no fucking sense. Haha.
How'd we get onto hunting with Bong's imaginary 16-year old son? Fuck, stay on topic and don't use dumbass comparisons like that.
As for how the gov't handled the whole situation after Katrina, I too feel they could have done better to evacuate and whatnot. But honestly, everyone had more than enough time to evacuate. It was a fucking hurricane. Advisories and warnings go out about hurricanes weeks in advance. If you can honestly tell me that all those who were caught behind in the storm had no tv's, computers, or radios to hear the warnings, then I might buy into the racist garbage Spike Lee vomits on camera. You're supposed to evacuate for hurricanes, and the safety info on them are well-known by most of the population down there. Hurricanes are nothing new, yet it seems that when a bunch of African Americans get caught behind in Katrina, the world has to stop and blame everything on the gov't for being racist.
Fuck people, listen to the warnings, eh?
If there's going to be a fucking hurricane on the shore in a week, take the proper actions to keep safe.
Instead of going to Burbon street and partying it away like it's just another rain storm.
Take some of the blame, instead of blaming others. J E S U S
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
This was the evacuation plan that I posted a while back....funny on how the link don't work now.......NEW PLAN??
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26
City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan.
PART 1: WARNING
I. GENERAL
Evacuation planning and actual implementation has to be based upon certain assumptions. It must be understood that the need to evacuate elements of the population can occur at any time, events resulting in evacuations occur with various amounts of lead time and every evacuation will be unique and offer unexpected challenges to those conducting the evacuation. Evacuations in response to hazardous material spills or sudden severe weather are provided with little or no warning, and often have to be accomplished after the fact, and in a disaster response environment. Throughout the Parish persons with special needs, require special consideration regarding notification, transportation, and sheltering. Resources of equipment, facilities and personnel are more difficult to locate and coordinate when an evacuation is required during late night or early morning hours. If possible, advance warning should be given so an evacuation can be coordinated. Adequate provisions should be maintained at all times in order to conduct a warning or alert of an area.
Certain hazards, such as a hurricane, provide some lead time for coordinating an evacuation. However, this can not be considered a certainty. Plus, the sheer size of an evacuation in response to an approaching hurricane creates the need for the use of community-wide warning resources, which cannot be limited to our City's geographical boundaries. Evacuation of major portions of our population, either in response to localized or citywide disasters, can only be accomplished if the citizens and visitors are kept informed of approaching threats on a timely schedule, and if they are notified of the need to evacuate in a timely and organized manner. If an evacuation order is issued without the mechanisms needed to disseminate the information to the affected persons, then we face the possibility of having large numbers of people either stranded and left to the mercy of a storm, or left in an area impacted by toxic materials.
In this day of high-speed communication and wide-spread availability of information, mechanisms do exist to transmit emergency related information to the vast majority of the community. For our most serious threat, hurricanes, information from the National Hurricane Center in Miami and our local office of the National Weather Service, can reach the general population through local governments and mass media outlets. It is the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Preparedness to guarantee that not only is the public alerted, but that other emergency response organizations and personnel are alert and in position to meet the real or potential threat.
Warning for an emergency requires notification at two levels: notification of public officials and response organizations and the warning of the general public. The mechanisms chosen to accomplish these critical events must be rapid in execution and comprehensive in application. This annex outlines the procedures which will be implemented for notifying the emergency response network of its activation, and of informing the general public of the potential or actual occurrence of life threatening events and hazards.
The extent and methods of warnings issued will be determined by the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness, and are based upon the geographic area impacted. When events necessitate the immediate evacuation of threatened individuals, these decisions may be made by the on scene Incident Commander. Decisions affecting larger geographic areas will be made by the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness in conjunction with the Superintendent of Fire and Superintendent of Police.
General evacuations that may result from an approaching hurricane will be ordered by the Mayor of the City, upon the recommendation of the Director of the Office of Emergency Preparedness. The area affected by the warning may range from blocks and portions of neighborhoods, to the entire city.
THIS shouldn't be all that hard to figure out........Local Government was on Bourbon St. enjoying the storm. How in the hell can the fed. be blamed for this one?
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
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Originally Posted by Jake Martinez
A: Rationalize that it was his own dumb idea to go hunt alone and that you're going to call 911 and hope they can find him before he bleeds out
B: Run your ass to your son as fast as you possible can, put pressure on the leg, forgive him for his mistake, forgive yourself for allowing such a stupid idea, and get his ass to a hospital ASAP.
It's B, isn't it, Bong?
Why, though? You told him it was a bad idea to go out alone like that, but you had to respect his freedom (you actually didn't put let's pretend like you did). It may be his fault that he ended up shot in the leg and bleeding profusely, but all is forgiven because you love your son and you don't wish anything bad on him, even for the sake of learning to listen, right?
Well, the government chose option A.
I think the comparison is right on! Especially option A (although, I attribute it more to incompetence than predjudice). I don't know every reason why people stayed behind. All I know is you have to help people out of that mess, regardless of what brains, if any, they have in their heads.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
I agree with Gray and Jake. And yes, incompetence on so many levels played a part. The city and state failed those folks as miserably as anyone else did, but we should have done a better job federally, too.
Louisiana is where my family comes from. Fortunately, my extended family doesn't reside in 9th Ward New Orleans, but anyone who's spent time in the cities of Louisiana knows what those circumstances are like. A huge amount of of those people were absolutely resourceless. Poor. Carless. In ill health. Incapable of leaving without a plan that helped them do so. And yes, a huge majority of them were black. While I don't believe it's the federal government's sole responsibility to have rescued them, that situation was a failure on many levels. And while a huge majority of those who fell victim to the worst events were black, because that's who lives in inner city NO, a lot of people forget that the overall disaster wrecked the lives of desperately poor folks in addition to working class citizens, not just black ones.
My husband and I volunteered down there with a Red Cross medical team last September for three weeks. It was appalling. And unfair. And unnecessary. I will never forget the sights and smells of that time. We would like to go back at the end of next month just to see NO and the Gulf Coast again and see the state of things a year later, but I don't know if that'll be possible with me in school now.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
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Originally Posted by BrooklynDiva
All weed smokers know how f*cked up America is.
Don't group me into your sick category, I love my country and fully support the concepts of patriotism and nationalism. People in the path of Katrina were told to EVACUATE. Like another person said: "GET THE FUCK OUT".
Turning Katrina into a racial issue is by all means a disgusting, partisian issue that divides the country against itself. The issue was due to incompitence in the government. To hell with your talks of racism.
Don't get the misconception that I'm defending the government. I'm pissed off that all this legislation was passed to make the country safer from Terrorism at the expense of privacy rights; and the FED somehow managed to respond slower this time to a national tragedy.
You can spew your garbage of class vs class, black vs white all you want. I'm not interested in that bullshit. At the end of the day, a lot of people died. And that's all that matters. It's all that ever matters.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/25/kat....ap/index.html
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During the CBS "60 minutes" interview, a correspondent pointed out flood-damaged cars still on the streets of New Orleans' devastated Ninth Ward. Nagin replied, "You guys in New York can't get a hole in the ground fixed, and it's five years later. So let's be fair," according to CBS.
The people in NO have have exactly the Government they voted for, and re-elected.
It's incompetent, overwhelmed, corrupt, focused on it's own image and agenda. Doesn't really care about the people in NO, and the people re-elect them anyway.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
I agree that if you live under sea level, you're a dumbass, but the government really didn't do much. The government TOLD them to evacuate, but not everyone has access to vehicles and houses in other states. The rich people were fine, but the majority of the poor who were mostly black did not get out of the city because they really had to way out. Yea...just let them run out of the city...they'll be ok. Besides, the government should have had supplies ready BEFORE Katrina even hit. You can't deny that. And why weren't the levees raised before it hit after they were warned many many times?
Do you remember a few years ago I think on TLC or something along that line, they had a TV program about what would happen if New Orleans was hit by a hurricane? I hope the Illuminati aren't experimenting with controlling the weather. Pretty damn good odds when it actually happens! :(
Just goes to show how much of a fascist government this is. Lol the handeling of Katrina doesn't make for good propaganda either! You want to make your government look like it is doing the best it possibly can. Shit, Nazi Germany probably would have had supplies ready for the Germans if a disaster like this happened there, because Nazi germany was in fact a welfare state. thats how they kept control.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
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Originally Posted by BrooklynDiva
All weed smokers know how f*cked up America is. But Hurricane Katrina opened the eyes of many Americans about race, class, and especially government in this country.
These two sentences are awesome.
First off, I smoke and I love this country and you damn sure don't speak for me.
Second most Americans knew about race, class, and government long before Katrina. Maybe you are speaking about people who are in comas or live in caves.
Witness how F*cked Up America Really Is - Hurricane Katrina Doc.
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Originally Posted by Great Spirit
Shit, Nazi Germany probably would have had supplies ready for the Germans if a disaster like this happened there, because Nazi germany was in fact a welfare state. thats how they kept control.
I disagree, Nazi Germany would have flooded New Orleans to kill the ethnic minorities. The Nazis controlled by killing people, where did you learn history?
