Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
Bong, Ozark, Haveing a nuclear device and threatening to use it goes much farther to makeing a world islam state than actually useing it.
These people are very powerful, very educated, they know they dont have the military to stand up to the US and pals.
Haveing a nuclear weapon and not useing it is just about their only defense, I wouldnt put it past them to have biologicals as well.
If they start useing them, it brings about their own demise, dont think for a minute that these very powerful men are willing to put their own lives on the line for their cause, thats why they convince the young and poor to do it.
Im not saying I want Iran to have these weapons either, but I dont think they will use them even if they get them, it doesnt further their cause of a world islamic state.
In my opinion, it would bring about the complete end of the islamic religion more than likely, they must be smart enough to realize this.
Fanatical or not, I stand by my opinion that these weapons do more for their cause unused.
Peace.
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
MM.... They will use it.... There is no M.U.D.. when one side doest care.......
During the cold war......... Russians had uniforms... we knew where to strike.
Now..... We are killing civilians... cause the fighters wont put a uniform on.
Hezbullah= iran
IMO we have been fighting Iran in "Iraq" for the whole time.........
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
Thanks for the whole article.......... BA
Right on Point................ :)
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
This article is worth having in total. Funny thing is, Prager is a religous person, Jewish, and correct about the religous extremism being a greater threat than the Communists or Nazis were, or are. I've read and heard Dennis Prager for years, and rarely agreed more with his editorials than now. He's getting clearer in his thinking, but I'm not with him on everything he espouses, especially regarding his respect for Judeo-Christian values.
To be honest I don't a history with him (Prager) I just happened upon this article and though it was pretty clearly presented.
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Originally Posted by Bong30
THC, They dont need energy................
Iran Is FLOATING on oil.
oil = energy
then you ask, why they need nukes? cause we know energy is Hogwash.
If that were the concept, no other country wouldn't need other sources of energy. America have coal, nuclear, oil, hydro, wind, and solar. 6 types. It's important to diversify energy resources, in case a source depletes. Iran has the 18th biggest population in the world. Why doesn't it need energy? The argument for increasing energy is limited. That's an entirely different issue than using nuclear technology to make a bomb, which I believe no country has the right to further develop nuclear technology for weapons. Which is why Iran should've taken the energy deal with the EU. It would've guaranteed energy was used for growth and peaceful means, and not nuclear bombs. It's flawed to dismiss the energy argument because you are bundling the two nuclear issues together. There are solutions to work-around providing Iran with the energy it needs, the problem is Iran won't make those concessions.
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Originally Posted by Bong30
Thanks for the whole article.......... BA
Right on Point................ :)
Howdy Bong30,
I second yer sentiment..it's a good article,but as we've seen by the responses,the 5th column is still refusing to accept the truth about Islam,I can attest to such truth,after living in Saudia Arabia and drillin water-wells for em..shame on me,for signing a contract with the devil..I danced with em and got burnt.
Have a good one !:stoned: :D
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Originally Posted by Bong30
MM.... They will use it.... There is no M.U.D.. when one side doest care.......
During the cold war......... Russians had uniforms... we knew where to strike.
Now..... We are killing civilians... cause the fighters wont put a uniform on.
Hezbullah= iran
IMO we have been fighting Iran in "Iraq" for the whole time.........
Indeed, Iran would be too dumb to use the bomb, as they would kill themselves along with all the others in the region. Thats why the 2 superpowers, the US and USSR never had the balls to launch their own missiles. Despite what George H.W. Bush says, there are no winners in a nuclear exchange.
Bong, you remind me of Fox News with your anti-Muslim Hezbollah equals Iran rhetoric. You think all Muslim nations are out to kill us, just as the government wants you to believe so they can take away our rights to protect us from the evil freedom hating Muslims. The Muslims are the modern scapegoats of the fascists, who once denounced communists, Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and LIBERALS as the culprit of the world's problems. After 9/11, Muslims are the new Jews and are being blamed for this phony "war on terror".
Now if members of ALL religions could find the spiritual meaning in them, maybe for once we can all take a shit in peace!!
As for the oil, we can use hemp to replace our oil and energy needs. Tesla fucken make a wireless power plant which was shut down by the government, so we can save the Earth if we wanted to with our level of technology. But man is too damn greedy. Oh but wait...that means the Amerikan military will diminish! Uh oh! Can't have that! That means a few hundred oil businessman can't get rich!! That means if we use hemp, we'll have cleaner air and more nutritious food! Uh oh! Can't have that!
Hey, a Muslim never legislated my rights away, but George W. Bush and Congress sure did!!!!
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Originally Posted by Great Spirit
Indeed, Iran would be too dumb to use the bomb, as they would kill themselves along with all the others in the region.
We are dealing with murderers who are more then willing to blow themselves up, that's why they call them "suicide bombers" Listen to what the leadership in Iran says, they are very upfront about what they want (a nuclear bomb) and who their going to use it on. Zionists (Israel) 1st, the great Satan US 2nd. They see their deaths and the deaths of their own children (sick pukes) as perfectly acceptable, in the name of (their) God.
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Thats why the 2 superpowers, the US and USSR never had the balls to launch their own missiles.
Yes both sides were sane, there is no deterrent when one side is suicidal and on a mission from God.
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Despite what George H.W. Bush says, there are no winners in a nuclear exchange.
When did President Bush say that ? You are right there are no winners, unfortunately the Leadership in Tehran doesn't believe you.
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Bong, you remind me of Fox News with your anti-Muslim Hezbollah equals Iran rhetoric. You think all Muslim nations are out to kill us, just as the government wants you to believe so they can take away our rights to protect us from the evil freedom hating Muslims.
If you think the Government "is taking away your rights" just remember it's the murdering Muslims who set the stage.
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The Muslims are the modern scapegoats of the fascists, who once denounced communists, Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and LIBERALS as the culprit of the world's problems. After 9/11, Muslims are the new Jews and are being blamed for this phony "war on terror".
Muslims aren't the scapegoats for anything, the murdering Muslims are being held responsible for their actions. They are hunted down and killed or captured everyday, and rightly so.
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Now if members of ALL religions could find the spiritual meaning in them, maybe for once we can all take a shit in peace!!
Members of all other religions have, only murdering Muslims are killing themselves and as many innocent people as they possibly can, in the name of (their) God.
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As for the oil, we can use hemp to replace our oil and energy needs. Tesla fucken make a wireless power plant which was shut down by the government, so we can save the Earth if we wanted to with our level of technology. But man is too damn greedy. Oh but wait...that means the Amerikan military will diminish! Uh oh! Can't have that! That means a few hundred oil businessman can't get rich!! That means if we use hemp, we'll have cleaner air and more nutritious food! Uh oh! Can't have that!
Oil justifies murdering Muslims ?
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Hey, a Muslim never legislated my rights away, but George W. Bush and Congress sure did!!!!
When a murdering Muslim murders you, he take away all your rights, forever.
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
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Why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons? We have them, so has America, France, Russia, Israel, China, Pakistan, India and possibly North Korea. So why make such a fuss about Iran?
After all, we gulped, but then decided to accept Pakistan's and India's nuclear bombs. Why? Because we recognized that their bombs are, essentially, a continuation of the Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine which, as a deterrent, kept us from nuclear Armageddon throughout the Cold War.
In fact, it could be argued that, not long ago, the M.A.D. doctrine actually kept Pakistan and India from going to war yet again over Kashmir.
So why shouldn't Iran have nuclear bombs to deter attack from the 'Great Satan', America, let alone the two 'Little Satans', Israel and Britain? Sounds reasonable. But that pre-supposes that the Iranian regime is reasonable.
The mullah-mafia lied through their teeth for 18 years, denying they had a nuclear programme, despite their obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
And all the evidence shows that they are lying now when they say they only want nuclear power for 'peaceful energy purposes', despite sitting on some of the largest oil reserves in the world.
But, alas, there's nothing which we would recognise as 'reasonable' about President Ahmadinejad, the small, bearded blacksmith's son from the slums of Tehran - who denies the existence of the Holocaust, promises to 'wipe Israel off the map' and who, moreover, urges Iranians to 'prepare to take over the world'.
The UN gave him until August 31 to reply to its package of proposals designed to stop his nuclear programme. Significantly he chose yesterday to, in effect, reject the UN ultimatum because yesterday was a sacred day in the Islamic calendar.
It is the day on which the Prophet Mohammed made his miraculous night flight from Jerusalem to heaven and back on Buraq, the winged horse.
As one Iranian exile told me yesterday: 'The trouble with you secular people is that you don't realise how firmly Ahmadinejad believes - literally - in things like the winged horse. By choosing this date for his decision, he is telling his followers that he is going to obey his religious duty.
'And he believes that his religious duty is to create chaos and bloodshed in the "infidel" world, in order to hasten the return of the Mahdi - the Hidden Imam. So don't expect him to behave, in your eyes, "reasonably".'
So who is this Hidden Imam? He was a direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed who, at the age of five, disappeared down a well around AD940. He will only return after a period of utter chaos and bloodshed, whereupon peace, justice and Islam will reign worldwide.
When I was in Tehran, Ahmadinejad was its mayor, and an Iranian friend with links to the city council told me: 'He's instructed the council to build a grand avenue to prepare for the Mahdi's return.
'I wouldn't mind that, because our roads are rotten - it's just that the motivation for this expensive avenue strikes me as completely crazy.'
On coming to power, in order to hasten the return of the Hidden Imam, the Iranian President allocated the equivalent of £10m for the building of a blue-tiled mosque at Jamkaran, south of the capital, where the five-year-old Hidden Imam was said to have disappeared down the well.
When the President drew up a list of his cabinet ministers, he's rumoured to have dropped their names down the well in order to benefit from its alleged divine connection.
Previous Iranian negotiators from the mullah-mafia elite were corrupt, sinuous and deceitful - but, when necessary, could be pragmatic. You could, to a certain extent, do business with them.
Many of these mullahs would not - despite their rhetoric - welcome the bloody destruction of the Western world, not least because they have stuffed their wealth into secret 'infidel' bank accounts overseas.
The Western-educated nephew of one such wealthy mullah said to me: 'Ahmadinejad's fruitcake theology scares us as much as it should scare you!'
But according to the political editor of Iran's Resalat newspaper, the President's apocalyptic mindset 'makes you very strong. If I think the Mahdi will come in two, three, or four years, why should I be soft? Now is the time to stand strong, to be hard'.
Warm and welcoming
Of course ordinary Iranians are not, on the whole, apocalyptic types: they are warm, welcoming to 'infidels' like me and, frankly, deeply fed up.
They don't obsess about the return of the Mahdi, they don't want nuclear weapons, and they certainly don't want an apocalyptic world war.
As one young Tehrani told me: 'I don't know why we are spending so much time antagonising he West. We're just getting more and more isolated, and our economy is in a complete mess.'
The young are not even that interested in religion: a recent poll of young Iranians showed that only 5 per cent watched religious programmes, and only 6 per cent said that they were interested in religion at all.
Seventy per cent of Iranians are under the age of 30, and what they want is to be able to have fun, to travel and, above all, to have jobs.
But the puritanism, corruption, cruelty and incompetence of the regime induces fatalisticdepression and drives all too many of them to drugs: Iran now has (and, surprisingly, has acknowledged) one of the highest drug addiction rates in the world.
Yearning
So why is Ahmadinejad - as a result of this stand-off with the West - suddenly so popular among the grassroots?
It's partly a matter of Persian nationalist pride: Iranians - who are not Arabs - remember how they once possessed a great empire and were the supreme power in the Middle East.
They share with Ahmadinejad the yearning that they should be so once again. And they remember how the Western powers exploited and manipulated them in the past and fear they may do so again.
Even the most pro-Western of those I have met were horrified at the thought of America attempting to bomb their nuclear plants, let alone mount an invasion.
Ahmadinejad is triumphant about the 'victory' over Israel in Lebanon by Iran's proxy, Hezbollah.
But ordinary Iranians - while shocked at the devastation caused by Israel - have long felt resentful about the amounts of money, let alone weaponry, that Iran shovels into Hezbollah's armed 'state-within-a-state' in southern Lebanon.
After Friday prayers in Tehran one day, which included the ritual 'Death to Israel!' chants, one young graduate, with no hope of a job, told me: 'Look, I don't care about Israel. That's a problem for the Arabs, not for us.'
At a union May Day rally this year, one placard daringly read: 'Forget about Palestine! What about us?'
So what happens next? Sanctions, probably. But the kind of sanctions which hurt ordinary, poverty-stricken Iranians too much would be counterproductive. Those which most hurt the elite would be preferable: international banking restrictions will damage the corrupt mullahs, and a form of oil sanctions may also put pressure on them.
Despite those massive oil reserves, Iran actually has to import over 40 per cent of its refined oil because, thanks to its incompetence, it never got around to building enough refining capacity.
There are no easy answers. But nuclear-weapon technology in the hands of an Iranian President obsessed with ' fruitcake theology' and the destruction of all 'infidels' is something which should keep us all awake at night.
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Just like all Germans weren't Nazis, all Iranians aren't religious mass murders, however just likes Germany, the Iranian "leadership" will murder millions of Innocent people given the opportunity.
Nuclear Showdown: Iran Says It Won't Stop Enrichment
Whats with this comparing Iran-abublahblahscab with germany-hitler is that the new reich-wing talking points.........Give GwB enuff time and he can kill more people then Hitler-Stalin combine
