'the path to 9.11'

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

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Well heres more for y'all--
I guess we can discount all these people though what a way to keep on repeating history is when people tend to disregard what people have said in the past

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice

"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department

"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate

Heres one that P4B knows by heart;) ---"The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
Frank Zappa, musician and cultural iconoclast

"The exact contrary of what is generally believed is often the truth."
Jean de la Bruyère

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd US President

"History teaches us that man learns nothing from history."
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

"There ought to be limits to freedom."
Governor George W Bush, May 21, 1999

"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."
Albert Einstein

Heres the best one!--------"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Sir Winston Churchill

Soo what say you ozark are these quotes just too old to take or what...No wonder were in a mess, people just dont fukin care!!!

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Once again, you take a bunch of statements that are totally unconnected to each other, taken totally out of context, using that method you can "prove" anything you want. People do it with the Bible all the time.

If this "bits & pieces" theory of yours is correct it means that this big secret cabal that you fear has been trying to take over the world at least 200 years and they haven't seceded yet. Or have they kept that part a secret too ?

Frank ( I named my own kid "moon-unit") Zappa, some real heavy weights you're quoting there.:thumbsup:

What's wrong with a world government, incidentally? We started out as bickering tribes, and over time those coalesced into nations, which are basically just big tribes. Why not go the next step and have all of us humans be part of the same tribe? The nice thing about that is that tribes very rarely war against themselves; all one tribe, no more wars. It seemed to work okay for the folks in the Star Trek universe!

I figure we'll eventually grow up from the tribal view of the world (nations vs. other nations). The human race could accomplish much more if so much of its energy wasn't spent on factions fighting factions. Of course, I could be totally wrong and we'll just maintain the status quo and keep killing ourselves, and eventually wipe ourselves out.

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

What's wrong with a world government, incidentally? We started out as bickering tribes, and over time those coalesced into nations, which are basically just big tribes. Why not go the next step and have all of us humans be part of the same tribe? The nice thing about that is that tribes very rarely war against themselves; all one tribe, no more wars. It seemed to work okay for the folks in the Star Trek universe!

I figure we'll eventually grow up from the tribal view of the world (nations vs. other nations). The human race could accomplish much more if so much of its energy wasn't spent on factions fighting factions. Of course, I could be totally wrong and we'll just maintain the status quo and keep killing ourselves, and eventually wipe ourselves out.

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Well think of this as a perspective discussion.

We in the US have a perspective of things that differs widely from say someone in Africa. Our choices of food are different, our perception of danger is different.

To someone in Africa it may be normal for there to be armed teenagers driveing by in a "technical". Whereas here in the US that would be very alarming.

A one world government, is effectively putting all citizens of the planet on one perspective scale.

Once that is done, the perspective can then be manipulated on a world wide scale, and the young will be socialized into whatever perspective they are seeing. It may very well be that it will become a normal scene that armed teenagers are patrolling your neighborhood.

Altho we hold a certain perspective now, there are forces at work that are changeing this perspective at an alarming rate.

Do you like your perspective?

Do you want it to change?

In a one world government we wont have a choice but to accept the perspective we are being given.

Peace.

They always have to have something out to try and dissprove the 9/11 Truth Movement. I mean shit, they can tell us that it was Osama bin Laden who planned and the names of all the "hijackers" on those planes right after 9/11, yet it takes them 4 years to show a small crappy image of an object crashing into the Pentagon and the released phone calls between alleged victims and their families.

They are just gearing up for the next staged terror attack to finally bring about martial law.

Remember, Alex Jones in his video in July 2001 warned of attacks that would be blamed on Osama bin Laden and on 9/11, they were.

That we can't be a community and yet have africans eating bugs isn't really valid. I mean, people in my city alone, can be quite different from me, and have different 'perspectives', but we still vote at the same polls. And if they eant to eat or dress or speak differently than I do, nothing is stopping them. That's kind of the beauty of a republic. Puerto Rico, for example, is a U.S. territory but their lives are quite different from those in the contiguous 48 states.

And didn't Osama himself claim responsibility for the 9/11 attacks? He already had a history of terrorism, so I don't see what's so stupefyingly unbelievable about a man committing an act he admitted perpetrating. I believe he's said many times that unless Americans are withdrawn from Arab lands, he will continue to attack our interests. So I predict he's not done yet, and not only will he be blamed for future attacks, he will also commit them (or order it done).

Here's another prediction: there will be no be martial law declared, except possibly in a very specific area and even then, only if there is widescale looting. What good would it do to declare martial law after a terrorist act? Very likely none. That's also why martial law wasn't declared after 9/11.

Some of you guys must think the CIA, the FBI, the NSA and our military itself are comprised predominantly of people who are part of this big conspiracy. But that's bullshit; they're all comprised of normal Joes, albeit decently educated Joes at the CIA and FBI and NSA. And these normal Joes, just like any other citizen, wouldn't allow any massive conspiratorial takeover. ANY attempted takeover would have to involve top-to-bottom control of our military, and that ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of moral, America-loving generals that simply wouldn't condone such a thing. And ya know, even if there weren't, the soldiers themselves wouldn't allow it.

people are getting shot at while peacefully protesting.
troops do what there told, FBI are storming houses with NO warrents.
People are being held with NO EDVIENCE OR TRIAL.
Troops in Iraq are killing women and children unarmed and non hostile

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

That we can't be a community and yet have africans eating bugs isn't really valid. I mean, people in my city alone, can be quite different from me, and have different 'perspectives', but we still vote at the same polls. And if they eant to eat or dress or speak differently than I do, nothing is stopping them. That's kind of the beauty of a republic. Puerto Rico, for example, is a U.S. territory but their lives are quite different from those in the contiguous 48 states.

And didn't Osama himself claim responsibility for the 9/11 attacks? He already had a history of terrorism, so I don't see what's so stupefyingly unbelievable about a man committing an act he admitted perpetrating. I believe he's said many times that unless Americans are withdrawn from Arab lands, he will continue to attack our interests. So I predict he's not done yet, and not only will he be blamed for future attacks, he will also commit them (or order it done).

Here's another prediction: there will be no be martial law declared, except possibly in a very specific area and even then, only if there is widescale looting. What good would it do to declare martial law after a terrorist act? Very likely none. That's also why martial law wasn't declared after 9/11.

Some of you guys must think the CIA, the FBI, the NSA and our military itself are comprised predominantly of people who are part of this big conspiracy. But that's bullshit; they're all comprised of normal Joes, albeit decently educated Joes at the CIA and FBI and NSA. And these normal Joes, just like any other citizen, wouldn't allow any massive conspiratorial takeover. ANY attempted takeover would have to involve top-to-bottom control of our military, and that ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of moral, America-loving generals that simply wouldn't condone such a thing. And ya know, even if there weren't, the soldiers themselves wouldn't allow it.

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I would think that some of the jews in germany made this same argument.

It has been said over and over that these things are being brought about by a very small fraction of the government. Not the bulk.

Not to mention that once a martial law condition is put into effect, the police and armed forces will do exactly as they are told, or face being sent to levenworth, or some other facility.

And martial law was all but declared after 9/11, armed personel everywhere, military and police.

The shut down of subways and train stations, check points on roads leading in and out of the city, as well as major roadways on Long Island.

There where too many people on foot to check, but cars were without a doubt being stopped and subject to questioning and search.

Claim this to be counter measures all you want, it doesnt take away what it actually was, unclaimed martial law.

Osama, has been proven to have worked for the CIA. That says enough.
Whether he is doing so now or working on his own agenda his actions are in question because of his past employment.

If the goal is to bring about a one world government, useing terror to do it, it doesnt make sense to kill your poster boy until you have reached your goal.

If the goal is to wipe out terrorism to protect the citizens, said poster boy would be dead, or in US custody.

I hope you are right about moral citizens not allowing this to happen, the real question is, at what point does said moral citizen give up?

If the conspiracies are happening, what then?

How many will be coralled into pens before the rest of the moral citizens give up?

If the conspiracies arent happening, how much stock do you place in a government that claims one man to be the most dangerous individual on the planet, and then claims him to be of no concern?

Would you trust the police to protect you from someone who has vowed to kill you if they were telling you that that person if of no concern?

Peace.

FOX news ABC etc. are to unbiased views what bill hicks is to neo cons.

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And didn't Osama himself claim responsibility for the 9/11 attacks?


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You mean the fat USAMA-----