America will attack Iran, Syria in October

My fear is in the validity of the points that conspiracy theorists make, not in their details or lunatic premise, but in the plausible actions that result from arrogance and ignorance.

I've heard and read compelling arguments why it's not in our best interest to take on Iran right now. I've also heard and read compelling arguments why it was stupid and irrelevant to invade Iraq.

There's a march toward the tipping point in all that's going on in the middle east, and it's not comforting to know we have an administration that lends an ear to the notion that biblical prophecy will make it all OK....

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Originally Posted by graymatter

My fear is in the validity of the points that conspiracy theorists make, not in their details or lunatic premise, but in the plausible actions that result from arrogance and ignorance.

I've heard and read compelling arguments why it's not in our best interest to take on Iran right now. I've also heard and read compelling arguments why it was stupid and irrelevant to invade Iraq.

There's a march toward the tipping point in all that's going on in the middle east, and it's not comforting to know we have an administration that lends an ear to the notion that biblical prophecy will make it all OK....

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It's like living a nightmare man. You think I actually like knowing that these events will come to life just because a few sick member of the Elite like to get off on it??!! The events of 9/11 prove to me that the world is not what it is meant to be, nor how most people see it. 9/11 was used to bring about a one world dictatorship government based on tyranny. And MANY MANY people will disagree with it, simply because this interferes with their plans of living "life to the fullest". They all have plans for the future and having kids. I'm sorry, but we cannot keep living the way we are because of pollution and overpopulation. IT NEEDS TO CHANGE!!! I personally will not be adding to the population crisis myself.

I know it seems very sick, but if you open up your spirit, you will find out WHY these events happened and find the purpose of them. Remember..."God" is both the Light and the Dark.

And I am well versed in fundemental Christianity and Zionism, so the Illuminati will want to try and bring the events of Daniel and Revelation to life. This is why George W. Bush's form of fascism will be fundemental Christianity, since the majority of Amerika's population are Protestant. The Illuminati are Dark, yet they have their purpose though. If they understood the true meaning of these books, they would see that it is symbolic for the soul, not literal. I must add to that it is very important to read the Quran and understand it. The Quran is a very beautiful book.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

It's like living a nightmare man. You think I actually like knowing that these events will come to life just because a few sick member of the Elite like to get off on it??!! The events of 9/11 prove to me that the world is not what it is meant to be, nor how most people see it. 9/11 was used to bring about a one world dictatorship government based on tyranny. And MANY MANY people will disagree with it, simply because this interferes with their plans of living "life to the fullest". They all have plans for the future and having kids. I'm sorry, but we cannot keep living the way we are because of pollution and overpopulation. IT NEEDS TO CHANGE!!! I personally will not be adding to the population crisis myself.

I know it seems very sick, but if you open up your spirit, you will find out WHY these events happened and find the purpose of them. Remember..."God" is both the Light and the Dark.

And I am well versed in fundemental Christianity and Zionism, so the Illuminati will want to try and bring the events of Daniel and Revelation to life. This is why George W. Bush's form of fascism will be fundemental Christianity, since the majority of Amerika's population are Protestant. The Illuminati are Dark, yet they have their purpose though. If they understood the true meaning of these books, they would see that it is symbolic for the soul, not literal. I must add to that it is very important to read the Quran and understand it. The Quran is a very beautiful book.

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I don't subscribe to the bible or the quran. But it's funny you mention it, the fundamentalist christians that tried to recruit GW TYPES warned about the darkness of the Illuminati back in the early 80's.... go figure.

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Originally Posted by graymatter

I don't subscribe to the bible or the quran. But it's funny you mention it, the fundamentalist christians that tried to recruit GW TYPES warned about the darkness of the Illuminati back in the early 80's.... go figure.

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You shouldn't take these books literally. Thats what the fundementalists do, including Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Thankfully, there is only a small amount of fundementalists. Would you take a science fiction book literally? Of course not. However, you need to read these books with an open mind and follow the spirit. That was Jesus' entire message. His teachings in the 4 Orthodox canonical Gospels differ greatly than what Christianity is today, especially fundemental Protestant theology. Life is what you call God, not an old man on a throne. The God that Jesus talked about is entirely different than the one the Christians, Jews, and Muslims proclaim to worship, with certain laws and dietary regulations and such.

I don't want to sound like I am imposing my beliefs on you, but these books do contain mystic wisdom and are real, and there is "another side" to this reality...aka an afterlife. Magick and the occult are real. Astrology is real. Numerology is real. Psychic phenomenon is real. There are dark forces, as well as light forces.

However, it doesn't matter if you profess belief in "God" in order to go to "heaven". Heaven is a state of mind. It's how you treat people and yourself which determines your status. Live a heavenly life..than you'll go to Heaven. Live a hellish life, than you'll go to Hell. And Heaven and Hell are on this Earthly physical plane.

I find it highly ironic though that the fundemental Christian view is trying to be fullfilled by dark Illuminati Zionists when it is all symbolic and not literal at all.

LOL, well it's late October, I thought I'd dig up this thread to see how the war is going.

It's going to be part of the "next staged attack" before the November elections to "bring in the dictatorship" here in America, two birds with one stone you know...:D

Alex Jones ( and all the other nutball websites) has been spoon feeding this drivel to these simpletons on a daily basis and they in turn have spent the last 4 years yelling Bush/Government is a Lier manipulator, propagandist, fascist. After the elections do you think these same people will be will be calling Alex Jones (and all the others) a lier, manipulator, propagandist
fascist bla bla bla.

What do you want to bet, that AJ & Co are held to a different standard, a lower standard, a double standard.

The sad part is many of these people don't even posess the (self) intellectual honesty to even know what I'm talking about, and face themselves.

They have been drafted into the "useful idiots" army, and they don't even know it.

I'll bet you're exactly right, Ozarks! You definitely nailed that about the lower standard they'll be held to. And that's fitting, too, since they are a lower standard when it comes to credible information.

Great Spirit, if he were able to be present with us (and I'm awfully glad he cannot) would remind us that October isn't over yet. I'm sure he's sitting on pins and needles, certain that the "next staged terror attacks" will happen within the next nine days.

Certainly a terrorist attack could happen. We all know that's a possibility. But I'm not twisted enough to think it'd be staged by our own government. I frankly think everyone in our government is probably working extra hard to prevent any terrorist surprises between now and election day in early November. I appreciate their efforts, too.

Ozarks, I always enjoy reading what you have to say. Glad you chimed in on this.

And Mr. Devious, I'm glad you dug up this old thread. I'd made a note of it a long while back, along with several others about the certain staged attacks this month, and planned to trot them out on November 1, but I'm glad this one's back in play a little early. Seems fitting since GS can't be here to taunt us himself with his paranoiac promises of our imminent demise.

It wouldn't make much stage an attack right now, the US has 19 brigades in iraq and afganistan, which leaves 17. Those have to replace them when they rotate out. If my math is correct, that would be 2 short of being able even to sustain the current situation. An iranian attack right now (real or fake) would leave bush in the rather awkward situation of having to to explain that there is nothing we can do because we don't have anyone left to do it with.

Bush would say, "We're pulling out of Iraq now..." (The crowd cheers.) "...and headin' north, boys!' (The crowd boos.)

Seriously, I don't think anything will happen. That's one of the scariest things about invading Iraq: our military can't be stretched any farther without breaking. Even if we NEED them for something more important than destroying fictional WMDs, angering Muslims across the world and bringing civil war to Iraq, we can't ask them to do more...because they can't. Not anything major anyway. I don't think our military is really capable of fighting two major fronts anymore. We can fight one front VERY effectively, but two (which is supposedly what our military is designed to be able to handle)...I don't think so. 1.5 fronts if we're lucky, and that's what we're fighting now with Iraq and Afghanistan.

I just think if people are going to present claims as facts, they should do so by piecing together information from established sources and confirmed information; not by presenting an opinion as established truth from biased sources like www.bushisanaziconspiringwithaliens.com