Isreal and American support for violence.

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Originally Posted by thcbongman

This wasn't an uncommon occurance. Hezbollah has done it in the past, and Israel and them exchanged prisoners in the past. Each side captures their troops all the time. I don't believe this incident is enough to provoke an offensive that spillovers to a country which really can't do anything about this situation. From 1975-1990 Lebanon was at civil war. This was a country that is basically damage goods that was working towards some democratic reforms. They don't have the capability themselves to disarm Hezbollah, which is I'm assuming Israel figured out.

Then Lebanon should have looked to the U.N. for assistance instead of allowing Hezbollah to gain such strenth. When Israel left Lebanon it was in Syrian control...seems funny that they are so close of buddies now. A Shi'ite terrorist group with a Sunni dominant country? IF they did succeed in wiping out Israel they would be fighting each other within' a matter of months.

However, I don't really like the premises that you have to destroy a country to destroy a terrorist group. That's not setting up good precedent for the future. Now any country can come and say "hey there's a terrorist group in your country, they're blowing up our people and infrastructure, we'll attack. Already Israel has responded in a similar way America has, using the same justification for terrorism. What would you think if China used terrorism has an excuse to invade Taiwan? Or India had enough of the terrorism in Kashmir and invaded it?

It's a concept that can be easily abused and twisted.

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China has more/less put it on the table that as of 2010 Taiwan will comply...kind of like the Borg.......resistance is futile! India, mutual destruction, nuclear, between Pakistan and India if all hell brakes loose.

If we had the same situation here on the Mexican border how would we/the U.S. react? What would our people demand? Israel has the same right to exist without this type of garbage.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

If we had the same situation here on the Mexican border how would we/the U.S. react? :

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We'd eat burritos :p

I agree that Isreal has the right to exist but still think they go way overboard in protecting that right. They practice Dubya Diplomacy; "Fuck Negotiation! Do what I say or I'll bomb the shit out of every last man woman and child...And don't mess with Texas"

Seriously, do they really think theyre wining any sympathy among their neighbors. I'm not saying they should bow down to the radical terrorist groups but everyone knows you can't go strirring up a hornets nest and not expect to get stung.

They give back southern Lebonan and get their soldiers kidnapped, they give back Gaza and have rockets flying into their southern towns. The hornets don't give a crap about conditions.......terminally pissed. Relations were on the road with Mahmoud Abbas until they got a soldier kidnapped........well heaven forbid Hezbollah is outdone.

With their weapons/nuclear arsenal, they could EASILY dust both these areas in a heart beat. I don't really see the use of excessive force myself.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Israel and Amerika are the main threats to world peace!!

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Israel and Amerika are the main threats to world peace!!

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No this is GS.....

Just put a sticky on this poll also.........psychocat...would an extra week be agreeable with you?

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

No, children dying, i think its fucking sick

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

No, children dying, i think its fucking sick

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what about the rocket attacks? people are dieing on bolth side CC.

why dont you guys say shit about Iran getting arms for Hezbullah?

cause you are brain washe dby the left leaning media........... thats why.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...276392,00.html


8 killed in rocket attack on Haifa



(VIDEO) Attack on north resumes: Rockets fired by Hizbullah terrorists from Lebanon land in Haifa; eight killed by direct hit on train depot. Worker: The truth is that last night (Saturday) I had a very bad feeling that this time it (rocket fire) would reach us. Today my premonition came true. Nahariya, Kiryat Bialik also targeted
Ahiya Raved



VIDEO - Israel Police said eight people were killed by a direct rocket strike on a train depot in Haifaâ??s Shemen Beach. Magen David Adom paramedics treated dozens of people wounded in the attack and evacuated them to hospitals in the city.



The names of the victims were released for publication:



Reuvan Levi, 43 year-old from Kiryat Ata

Danis Lapidos, 24 year-old from Kiryat Yam

Shmuel Ben Shimon, 41 year-old from Yokneam Ilit

Nisim Elhariri, 43 year-old from Kiryat Ata

Asa'el Damti, 39 year-old from Kiryat Yam

David Feldman, 28 year-old from Kiryat Yam

Sholomi Mansura, 35 year-old from Nahariya

Rafi Hazan, 30 year-old from Haifa




The IDF has begun an initial investigation of the incident. Sources in the IDF told Ynet that Hizbullah used, for the first time, a different type of rocket against Haifa, the Fajr model. The rocket has a 40 kilometer range, and can carry a larger amount of explosives than the Katyusha.

Well its just what i've seen on the news over here about them bombing orphanages with children still in them etc

And george b, talking about a cease fire when hes the one helping them with weapons it.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

I hate hypocrisy and it would seem to me that the US is guilty as hell right now.
The US goverment says "We want a ceasefire in the Middle East" but then they are still supplying Isreal with weapons.
Am I the only one who believes that if America wants peace in the east they should not supply anyone with weapons?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...11&expand=true

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that's exactly what it is. it's doublethink. we must accept that we are spreading freedom and demockracy to the world with bombs and puppet dictators.

why don't we just hand them copies of our constitution, we're not using it anymore, if applied correctly it leads to freedom from tyranny of government...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one deniesâ??all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth. (pages 35, 176-177)