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might as well take advantage of this thread while it's alive...
The correlation of minds effect BZ could of been of particular use with ken kesey. Sounds like quite an expirience, although I don't like that statement about never being the same... sounds too volatile.
There are sooo many chems that can be used to produce euphoric/psychedelic/delerium effects.
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Doesnt sound like it's worth doing too me. so i imagine im dieing and i have a heart attack because i beleave im dieing,,,or whatever it sounds very dangerious,,but if youre refering too a movie Id take it with a grain of salt.
Peace D
BZ is real, was being considered as a "crowd control" weapon - to possibly replace CS/CN gas.
AFAIK it was dropped.
you can trip for 6 WEEKS what the fuck! i could never do it right now... i dont really have a month to just say peace to the world and not drive or anything
but i would love to do that maybe someday when i dont have class and i get paid vacation time or something
Anyone who wants to actually go out and do BZ needs help, imho. I'm sorry if that made me sound like a condescending ass, and believe you me I'm all for people expanding their consciousness in the ways that they deem fit for themselves. But BZ is a weapon. It isn't a psychoactive, though it may seem like one. It was developed for one purpose, and that is to drive people either temporarily or permanently insane. Basically, when the military found out that LSD wasn't all it was cracked up to be (weapon wise that is) in the late 50's and early 60's, they developed this stuff to use in combat situations where they needed to capture a guarded location without causing too much damage to the surrounding area (cities, important bases, factories etc etc).
Go educate yourselves about this stuff, but please, please, please realise that it is and always will be meant as a weapon (the military has enough to drive the entire human population insane several times over), and not a mind expanding/altering substance.
That said, I doubt anyone here could ever get any.
yeah I wouldnt do BZ ever... I think it would change you way too much.
Mushrooms please and thank you. No more no less. Well, less for sure. I love my ganga,:rastasmoke:
I wonder what the legal status of this drug/weapon is. It definitely isn't widely available, or from what I've now read even minutely available, so would it be an illegal substance? Just curious.
Yea, it's not like acid at all.
It's more like an almost automatic bad trip, and much more extreme than acid and for a lot longer.
so then... why would anyone willingly ingest this stuff?
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Beats the shit out of me... I'd rather eat my own vomit and/or feces. Seriously, If that was the choice.... little vomit, little poopy, maybe a pinch of sugar, tastes better than ever.
....No seriously, if you've ever had a bad trip on mushrooms or acid, and you were offered that ultimatum, you'd eat the poo.