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dude, rock on...
just a stoned thought please bear with me ...what if you took a 5 gal rubermade container and cut a hole in the bottom of the tub 1 inch or so around .then filled the tub with soil and raise the tub up in the air put a plant in the hole planted upside down then place a light on the ground pointing up at the plant ? would it grow would gravity help or hurt what do ya think ?
thanks and good luck
If they can do it, I bet you could too!Quote:
Originally Posted by smokesalot
http://www.gardeners.com/on/demandwa...20&SC=XNET8019
cool link thanks no room for playin here i was just throwin out an idea
the ad says tomatoes 1 month earlyer that kinda makes me think ?to be able to harvest a few even two weeks early would'nt hurt ?
I like that twisted leaf thing.
Well things have been really hectic around here.
I was trying something new....and I was baked....
So my third crop is the one in my gallery mainly. (except bob and the CitrusXSkunk).
I've been trying all kinds of things, such as the leaf twisting which I hope to later try grafting the two stems together and see if I can make them bond in an attempt for natural support when I get the big bud in. I have also been trying alot of new products. I currentlt use Blu-Moon organic nutes and Dutch Master Penetrator and Folitech. I will soon be introducing the Max FX also. This is going to up the yeild by 30% and I want to test them on that too.
Anyway the point of this is that I was trying Excellofizz which give CO2 from a tablet placed in water above your lights.
Now here is the important part of being a Mad Professor. Don't get too baked before trying something new. I've used the Excellofizz before but not a full tablet, I always broke them down since I didn't want to use for a whole 12'X12' room. Well I used the same container as before and the water bubbled over like Niagra Falls and into my power strip and one poor little exposed 42W CFL.
I was running for my computer to pull the powerstrip off it cuz I had to switch off the lights and I was pulling plugs and trying to get the rest of the CO2 out of my room so it didn't effect us.
The moral is Don't get too baked when trying to be a scientist! LOL So now after having changed the light cycle to 14/10 the day of the light prob, and then having a nice visit by the power guy and losing power for 3 days.
I have now christened this the Murphy Grow!
I don't think I will be doing too much more experimenting on this batch. They have been through alot of changes lately.
And well face it, I want a good harvest!
Now that I've let you know what is going on in my garden for the moment I wanted to go over those upsidedown planters.
I've been looking at them with alot of interest. I wonder if gravity will make much of a difference on harvest and if the trich production will have much effect, and what medium will be the best. I would think that flushing would be tough and how would you keep the nutes from running down the stem to burn it.
I also have an idea to grow up a trellis in the grow room firmly anchoring the stems to the wall and when the plant gets big enough to fill all the verticle space then moving the light to the floor and let the buds grow down like grapes so to speak. This was another of my stoner ideas, I think this is more addressing small closet space issues then to get the biggest harvest. There is a term for growing fruit trees against a wall like that but I don't remember it now.
Anyway time for me to jump to the chat. I'll check in will everyone again soon.
Winks:thumbsup:
do it up winks lets get this site on the road
Ok so I figure that even though this is in the indoor grow forum that espaliers maybe something to look into. If you have a large room with empty walls why not try something new.
Remember that when you experiment you want to have fun. Don't take anything too seriously. If you were trying to get the perfect bud with out the mistakes or pains of trying something new, then you shouldn't be a mad professor.
With that said. This is all about espaliers (growing trees against a wall, funny that is all I had to put into google ;)
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MG273
An "espalier," (pronounced "es-PAL-yer") is any plant trained to grow in a flat plane against a wall, fence, or trellis. The word espalier also may be used to describe the technique of training a plant to this flat plane. A French word, espalier is derived from the Italian spalliera, which means something to rest the shoulder (spalla) against. The Romans originated the technique, but later generations of Europeans refined it into an exacting but rewarding art.
The more I read the more I think this would be a great way to grow mothers.
but you guys check it out too and let me know what you think.
Here are some other links that include some great growing forms
http://www.espaliertrees.com/photos.html
I really think that the belgium fence might be a great way to do a verticle scrog kind of thing.
http://www.appleart.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espalier
An espalier collects almost as much sunlight as a regular tree, yet has far less mass. They may also be planted next to a wall, which can reflect more sunlight. These two facts allow an espalier to succeed in cooler climates, where a non-espaliered tree of the same variety would fail. They also mature fruit more quickly.
So let me know what you think.
Bust on!
Winks
Oh this is also how I will be doing my outdoor grow if I ever get out of the city.....lol...yeah right, Love Seattle too much to leave it......
Still I can dream...
you showed that to me in the chat room its a great idea if u have the room and the time to take care of it all
All you need is a blank wall and yes it will take a bit of time but not that much more than a verticle scrog.Quote:
Originally Posted by CChrisgat05
I'm gathering clones from a friend and hope to do this with permafrost soon after I beat the bugs for good.
Winks