For all Americans...

Bush will talk live abuot this at noon (et) time... I know cnn is covering it live, not sure who else is....

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Originally Posted by Kush Over

I still say it's going to take force -- as in a unified opposition in the hundreds of thousands to millions, to overthrow this burden.

It's funny because it'd probably be primarily comprised of the poverty stricken to lower middle-class American population.

It's a single ideal that's missing.

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I had a poli sci prof. who used to say, "It can either be done with ballots or bullets." If anything the last two elections (but is true in every election) is how easy it is to manipulate the vote.

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Originally Posted by insanity

I had a poli sci prof. who used to say, "It can either be done with ballots or bullets." If anything the last two elections (but is true in every election) is how easy it is to manipulate the vote.

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Even I see a problem with the bullet part. If the United States goes into another 'civil war' of sorts, then it could leave us extremely susceptible to outside interference.

You could rig the ballots, I suppose. But then the only question is who you would rig it in favor for.

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Originally Posted by Kush Over

Even I see a problem with the bullet part. If the United States goes into another 'civil war' of sorts, then it could leave us extremely susceptible to outside interference.

You could rig the ballots, I suppose. But then the only question is who you would rig it in favor for.

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Marc Emery, of course.

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Originally Posted by Kush Over

Even I see a problem with the bullet part. If the United States goes into another 'civil war' of sorts, then it could leave us extremely susceptible to outside interference.

You could rig the ballots, I suppose. But then the only question is who you would rig it in favor for.

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Yeah, I honestly think good social progress can be made in this country without resorting to bullets (the thought of having to kill my countrymen to ensure change is really depressing). In Oregon, we are working at an election reform bill to keep corprate intrests as far away from the policy maker. Also, in Portland, we have a campaigns that are financed publically so that anyone who can get enough support can run. Things like this take power away from the elites and makes government about results not talk.

Bush Doesn't Confirm NSA Data Collection

WASHINGTON -
President Bush did not confirm or deny a newspaper report Thursday that the National Security Agency was collecting records of tens of millions of ordinary Americans' phone calls.

"Our intelligence activities strictly target al-Qaida and their known affiliates," Bush said. "We are not mining or trolling through the personal lives of innocent Americans."

USA Today, based on anonymous sources it said had direct knowledge of the arrangement, reported that AT&T Corp., Verizon Communications Inc., and BellSouth Corp. began turning over records of Americans' phone calls to the NSA shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

http://today.reuters.com/News/newsAr...Top+NewsNews-2
Congress to look at NSA database of US phone calls

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Senate panel will ask U.S. phone companies about a new report that the National Security Agency has been secretly collecting phone records of tens of millions of Americans, including calls made within the United States.

USA Today reported that the domestic spy agency has been building up the database using records provided by three major phone companies -- AT&T Inc., Verizon Communications Inc. and BellSouth Corp. -- but that the program "does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations."

"We've got to call on those telephone companies to provide some information to figure out what is going on," Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on Thursday.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...5-10-nsa_x.htm

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls

The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans â?? most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

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Originally Posted by Kush Over

Even I see a problem with the bullet part. If the United States goes into another 'civil war' of sorts, then it could leave us extremely susceptible to outside interference.

You could rig the ballots, I suppose. But then the only question is who you would rig it in favor for.

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they already did rig it... it's not a suppose... Bush has done it and will do it again... it's getting them to not allow it to happen that we have to acomplish first...

http://filmstripinternational.com/fi...strip=election

The feds tapped my phone last summer when I had a dispute with my bank & united airlines = ftw the palin fact is the feds want to own every american just the bank owns you when you sign there cheap ass contract.

As I smoke a bowl right now later all

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Originally Posted by weezy

i myself think bush is just a puppet for the illuminati
many may not believe in it but the signs are all there

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No kidding. Isn't he a freemason?

freemason??