Guide To Self-Induced Trance

wow that's weird looking at the shape of your eye sockets like that, i feel like an owl or something.

pretty cool effects, you just gotta try to be aware of everything in your vision. my vision kept kinda "twitching" every so often, so maybe there was too much tension in my eyebrows (being raised) or my eyes (trying to look to high up). i'm not sure if i understand this part:

"When you breath in, close the airway to your throat with the back of your tongue" -- how do you do that? I mean I can breathe in with just my nose, but the tongue thing is weird.

Anyway I wasn't sure if it had worked at first when I stopped after a minute or so... until my dad entered the room and started talking to me and all of a sudden I realized I was feeling really high ;)

All in all though, I think I prefer regular meditation. This technique was interesting and I'll try it again, but I feel like there was too much muscular tension in my face from trying to do it right; in my jaw and eyes and forehead, like I was trying to stretch my face too long.

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Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza

wow that's weird looking at the shape of your eye sockets like that, i feel like an owl or something.

pretty cool effects, you just gotta try to be aware of everything in your vision. my vision kept kinda "twitching" every so often, so maybe there was too much tension in my eyebrows (being raised) or my eyes (trying to look to high up). i'm not sure if i understand this part:

"When you breath in, close the airway to your throat with the back of your tongue" -- how do you do that? I mean I can breathe in with just my nose, but the tongue thing is weird.

Anyway I wasn't sure if it had worked at first when I stopped after a minute or so... until my dad entered the room and started talking to me and all of a sudden I realized I was feeling really high ;)

All in all though, I think I prefer regular meditation. This technique was interesting and I'll try it again, but I feel like there was too much muscular tension in my face from trying to do it right; in my jaw and eyes and forehead, like I was trying to stretch my face too long.

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hmmmm, you seem to be taking things a bit too far. you shouldn't be raising your eyebrows, or straining any part of the facial muscles. you're just looking upward with your eyeballs alone. also when you open your mouth, it only has to be enough to breath, you shouldn't hold up so open that your jaw gets sore.

as for the airway, what I mean is just press the back of your tongue up and it'll press against the top of your throat, thus cutting off the airway.

so anyway, just remember not to tense any muscles and try to stay mentally relaxed. glad to hear a positive result from somebody :) .

Mrdevious maybe you could answer my questions please.I would like to be able to meditate but I just think about stuff and then I get a pain in my chest area.

What causes this pain and how long does it take to get passed this point?

Maybe like me you were straining yourself too hard in some way, like maybe breathing too hard. Try toning it down a little, relax to the point where you're no longer getting this pain.

With ANY form of meditation, the most important thing is not to worry about whether you're doing it right, not to judge yourself if you're getting off track or if you think "nothing's happening," etc. This seems to be the sort of technique that calms your body down first, enabling you gradually and automatically to stop "thinking about stuff." But thinking a lot is a common problem for anyone not used to letting go of thoughts. Every time a thought arises, just notice it, and nonjudgementally bring yourself back to the "task" at hand (paying attention to your vision, to your breath, whatever it may be).

Thinking about whether you're doing it right can become just another THOUGHT (obviously) and just another distraction. Don't let it affect you too much because any technique, if you are focusing on one aspect of your experience, can have beneficial effects, whether you are doing it the same as other people or not. And remember that EVERY thought must be forgotten, and let go of, eventually... so why not right now?

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Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza

Maybe like me you were straining yourself too hard in some way, like maybe breathing too hard. Try toning it down a little, relax to the point where you're no longer getting this pain.

With ANY form of meditation, the most important thing is not to worry about whether you're doing it right, not to judge yourself if you're getting off track or if you think "nothing's happening," etc. This seems to be the sort of technique that calms your body down first, enabling you gradually and automatically to stop "thinking about stuff." But thinking a lot is a common problem for anyone not used to letting go of thoughts. Every time a thought arises, just notice it, and nonjudgementally bring yourself back to the "task" at hand (paying attention to your vision, to your breath, whatever it may be).

Thinking about whether you're doing it right can become just another THOUGHT (obviously) and just another distraction. Don't let it affect you too much because any technique, if you are focusing on one aspect of your experience, can have beneficial effects, whether you are doing it the same as other people or not. And remember that EVERY thought must be forgotten, and let go of, eventually... so why not right now?

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What he said.



Also, how are you breathing? and were you talking about the trance in this thread or regular meditation?

Yes every thought should be forgotten but how do you achieve that?Everytime I try I just keep thinking of bad stuff and the pain is more a pain of sadness not a pain caused physically.I'm sorry this is deep and not what you are really talking about here.I thank you for replying to me and will try it on a good day.

I'm sorry to hear that you're depressed. Meditation is definitely more difficult at times like that. Maybe rather than this technique you should try something simpler. Just sit with your eyes closed and "follow your breath," some people like to try counting at first. In-breath one, out-breath two, three, four, then start over when you get to ten or so.

I don't know what's bothering so I don't know how to help you. Breathe really deep and long while focusing your attention on the very tip of your nostrils where air comes in and out. Sometimes doing yoga first prepares the body, like doing a headstand if you can. You'd be surprised how much of the tension and frustration is in the BODY. I really hope you feel better.

http://www.hypnosisiseasy.com/Articl...20hypnosis.htm

A common technique is to imagine yourself drawing a triangle and try to see it in your mind, then write the letter A in the middle of the circle , once you have done this then you take a cloth and wipe the whole thing away leaving a blank . Repeat this until all you are concentrating on is the space in your mind and the number , each time you wipe away the number you say to yourself that you are wiping your mind clean and this is relaxing , as you convince your subconcious of this you will find it easier to achieve relaxation.

Simple techniques work best.

Maybe these links will help ? :thumbsup:

http://www.hypnoadvance.com/6/visual-self-hypnosis.html

I guess it's just mental baggage and I need to learn to let go before I can begin to feel better.I have thought about hypnosis but it is not something I would feel comfortable doing to myself and I think it would be harder then meditation.

Thank you for your kind and helpful responses.

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I guess it's just mental baggage and I need to learn to let go before I can begin to feel better.I have thought about hypnosis but it is not something I would feel comfortable doing to myself and I think it would be harder then meditation.

Thank you for your kind and helpful responses.

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Mantras help some people , I have a link that may help. :D ;) :cool:

http://www.theyogashop.co.uk/WEB2004...in/mantra3.php