The use of psychoactive drugs for spiritual purposes

yo whats this "peruvian torch cactus" you speak of and how can i get some of it?
thanks budday

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Originally Posted by Trichocereus Panza

a connection with nature IS a connection with yourself.

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Exactly. It's all brain patterns and inner workings... it's not the "drug" that gives you spiritual growth and those who think they are growing spiritually because of their Mushroom use, isn't growing at all...

LSD is the fucking same deal as Psilocybin and Mescaline... stop kidding yourselves. Synthetic vs. Nature is a stupid argument and is explained above... and the most importent thing is... if you can't apply your new awareness in a sober state of mind then what are you really doing? Just tripping around... and not learning anything.

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Originally Posted by RedRainDrop

^ thats not true

You can only connect with nature, and the spiritual world with mushrooms, salvia, or chronic, in my opinion because they grow naturally (well did at one point)

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That's NOT true? You can ONLY do it one way? If their is one importent thing I've learned is that there is no ONE way for anything. If you think you can grow spiritually from fasting and sleep depravation or synthetic drugs, you CAN.

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Originally Posted by andruejaysin

Great quote. Someone had the idea of using something like 5meo-dmt to yield (in theory) 4ho,5meo-dmt, if the general pattern holds that should resemble psilosin at perhaps 5x potency. Maybe someone growing shrooms would want to test that.

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hmmm...
I am half-thinking of growing mushrooms next year. Taken out of context though, I can't picture how you would "introduce" any of these chemicals (Mickey Mouse included), or how you would test the "yield" (just by the effects?) Interesting stuff.

And for the person who asked where to get peruvian torch powder, try this place: http://www.mindzeyecreationz.com/ ... you will also need to do some research about it though, a bit about dose and preparation. There are threads on here that can help, and then there's erowid.org

I can't wait till I can order that powder.

"Dex, a connection with nature IS a connection with yourself, as you will find out if you try peyote for example."

Been there, know what you mean. Will write more about it when time allows (probably tomorrow)