Pro-Torture, Pro-Tyranny Media Rebukes Brave Falun Gong Protester

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Originally Posted by WalkaWalka

Either way they have the right to practice there religion just as the mormons do.
The fact that she was taken is is bad the fact she was charged with something is godamn ridiculus. I hope you know that if you ever interrupt lord bush or any other goverment official the same thing will happen to you. And that the precedent is set most likely we won't hear about it. Just to add you'll be fucked 3 times sideways.

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Many Mormons are nice people, but did you know that they believe that a man should have multiple wives? They are not allowed to do this - but some do anyway. 60 thousand Mormons in Utah practice Polygamy - about 5% of them.http://www.absalom.com/mormon/polygamy/faq.htm

The last thing in the world that we have to worry about is the "rights" of weird religions. The mainstream ones are bad enough - in fact, their beliefs are more responsible for the hideous state of world affairs than any other single factor.

And yes, I know that I would be arrested if I "interrupted Lord Bush" - and I agree with this law. Interrupting ANY president, or the proceedings, at a formal gathering is illegal.

The last thing in the world that we have to worry about is the "rights" of weird religions. The mainstream ones are bad enough - in fact, their beliefs are more responsible for the hideous state of world affairs than any other single factor.


lol

too true :)

I think it's more of a shame on our country than thiers... we're suppose to be fighting this glonal war for freedom, yet our preisdent does nothing about it in China and wants to make it look like cookies and milk when he gets here?? How can we go into Iraq and Iran and kill 350,000 people because their dictator killed 1,000ish (maybe) yet we have a rich warm welcome for a dictator who kills thousands a year... have neuclear power.... does not allow many personal freedoms??

Cowardness if you call me... we can pick on the weak Muslims and call them all terrorist, but we have to apologize to a leader who takes away his people's freedom so much they'll face jail time to just talk about it.

Should she have done it no... but should we as a nation have no idea this is going on in China without her doing it HELL NO...

gumby were you talking about this dictator..... Saddam Hussien

1,000ish (maybe)........................100,000ish more like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

With more than 100,000 Iranian victims[1] of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons during the eight-year war, Iran is, after Japan, one of the world's top afflicted countries by Weapons of Mass Destruction.

The official estimate does not include the civilian population contaminated in bordering towns or the children and relatives of veterans, many of whom have developed blood, lung and skin complications, according to the Organization for Veterans of Iran.

Nerve gas agents killed about 20,000 Iranian soldiers immediately, according to official reports. Of the 90,000 survivors, some 5,000 seek medical treatment regularly and about 1,000 are still hospitalized with severe, chronic conditions. Many others were hit by mustard gas.

Furthermore, 308 Iraqi missiles were launched at population centers inside Iranian cities between 1980 and 1988 resulting in 12,931 casualties.[1]

There is great resentment in Iran that the international community helped Iraq develop its chemical weapons arsenal and armed forces, and also that the world did nothing to punish Iraq for its use of chemical weapons against Iran throughout the war â?? particularly since the US and other western powers later felt obliged to oppose the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and eventually invade Iraq itself to remove Hussein

Breukelen was right, Falun Gong is nothing more than a cult. My mother-in-law, a Chinese citizen living in China, got mixed up with them a while back. I don't know all the details but she got very sick because they told her not to take medication that she needed. She also ended up giving away huge amounts of her life saving, jewelry, etc to the Falun Gong. Eventually my wife and brother-in-law persuaded her to stop following those idiots. Now, several years later, she has absoluetky nothing good to say about them.

Anti-China folks like to point out that China persecutes anyone who is religious. This is absolutely false. Chinese are free to follow any of the established religions. In fact, the most incredible church I've ever seen, architechturally speaking, was in Shanghai. They have no tolerance, however, for weird cults whose activities make one or two people incredibly wealthy while ruining the lives of their followers.

That being said, I don't think the nut job should be charged with anything. She should have been escorted out of the building and nothing more. No need to come up with some riduculous charges just because he embarrassed Dubya. Shit, he does it to himself every time he opens his mouth.

DON'T WORRY,,,,,THERE ARE NO TERRORISTS:rolleyes:

Toll from Egypt blasts rises to 30 dead -- officials
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CAIRO, April 24 (Reuters) - The death toll from blasts at the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Dahab on Monday has risen to 30, rescue officials in Sinai said.

The officials, who asked not to be named, said the number of wounded was more than 100. But Said Issa, the director of rescue services in South Sinai province, said the number of wounded was 160, with some in critical condition.
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Bush is USAMA--err wait were talking about the Decider and his pet HU. Why was there no real investigation into 911..........Terrorist live in the WHITEHOUSE

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Originally Posted by Bong30

gumby were you talking about this dictator..... Saddam Hussien

1,000ish (maybe)........................100,000ish more like

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq_War

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then why are they making a big deal out of a letter he wrote telling to kill 140 people?? If he killed 100,000 why worry about 140??

And is still is a hell of a lot less than 350,000 <--- the number bush has killed...

what makes killing one person better than killing another is all I ask... why is it OK for us to kill 350,000 people and yet completly wrong for someone else to kill 10 people? Are we not terrorist as well??

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

Anti-China folks like to point out that China persecutes anyone who is religious. This is absolutely false. Chinese are free to follow any of the established religions. In fact, the most incredible church I've ever seen, architechturally speaking, was in Shanghai. They have no tolerance, however, for weird cults whose activities make one or two people incredibly wealthy while ruining the lives of their followers.

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its a bit much to accuse someone highlighting China's less than impeccible human rights record as "anti Chinese." That's certainly not the case - im not anti-chinese any more than i am anti-american because i disagree with Bush's policies or anti-iranian because their PMs a righwing bigot.....im not anti any country - they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name.....
it's pretty disingenious to paint china as a tolerant society based on church
architecture.....main religions are tolerated only as long as they dont threaten the one party state.....as for any kind of trade unions, student unions, democratic forums, political parties, free politcal discourse on tv, radio, newspapers or online - forget it - unless that is you don't mind a lengthy prison stay. You seem to be missing the point slightly by focusing on the negative characteristics of the fulan gong - they are not persecuted in china because of some nanny state attempt to protect the populace from their teachings - but because any anti-CCP sentiment is harshly dealt with...whether that comes from a wacky cult or not.

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Originally Posted by andyandy

its a bit much to accuse someone highlighting China's less than impeccible human rights record as "anti Chinese." That's certainly not the case - im not anti-chinese any more than i am anti-american because i disagree with Bush's policies or anti-iranian because their PMs a righwing bigot.....im not anti any country - they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name.....
it's pretty disingenious to paint china as a tolerant society based on church
architecture.....main religions are tolerated only as long as they dont threaten the one party state.....as for any kind of trade unions, student unions, democratic forums, political parties, free politcal discourse on tv, radio, newspapers or online - forget it - unless that is you don't mind a lengthy prison stay. You seem to be missing the point slightly by focusing on the negative characteristics of the fulan gong - they are not persecuted in china because of some nanny state attempt to protect the populace from their teachings - but because any anti-CCP sentiment is harshly dealt with...whether that comes from a wacky cult or not.

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Hey Andy, didn't mean to accuse you of being anti-Chinese. You're comment of "they've all populated by mostly nice folks with a few jerks who give the rest of them a bad name" shows that you are far more intelligent than a great deal of Americans who can'tseem to differentiate between a counties govt and its people.

My post was mainly to agree with Breukelen about his comment of Falun Gong being a cult. And, to point out that it is wrong for people, who are "anti-China", to use the Falun Gong of an example of China's oppression of religion. I have no doubt that the enthusiasm the Chinese govt has for going after the Falun Gong has much to do with the fact that they are so critical of the Chinese govt. but that is similar to the old chicken or the egg deal. Is the Falun Gong presecuted because they are critcal of the govt? Or, are the Falun Gong critcal of the govt because they were persecuted?

I've lived in China and have my own experience with the terribley corrupt govt. Trust me, I've got some stories that Pissy would have a field day with and I have no doubt that my exepriences are just the tip of the iceberg. Still, I have to say that China is terribly misunderstood by most Americans. Our media does a wonderful job of villianizing China by seizing isolated incidents and blowing them out of proportion or taking them out of context. I just try to point them out when I see them.