mexicans on the march

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Originally Posted by friendowl

it's gonna be crazy if they make illegals illegal.
trust me

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i think there is a possibility of things getting crazy...
is it really unprovoked though? i am all for change, but Rep nd Dem alike are acting like this is going to help the situation. I am very glad that hispanics have stepped up to this unfair Bill. Not enough demonstrations are being held, allowing one sided bills to go under the table. To think 12 million ppl that you practically interact with everyday (every1's local pizza, cutting your lawn, the new apt complex that you live it), FELONS! Ridiculous. I am for change, but make it the right type of change.

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?

It is kinda proven though that hispanics or waaay more likely to drop out of school

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Originally Posted by higher4hockey

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?

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higher stock values
they clean your house
mow your lawn
make your food
clean up after your food
fix your car
clean up after fixing your car
12-15 million undocumented immigrants are currently in america

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Originally Posted by 3rdEyeVision

It is kinda proven though that hispanics or waaay more likely to drop out of school

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so are blacks... but do we kick them out? nooo. and most of the hispanics IN school are regular old american - folk. the undocumented immigrant wave has happened in the past 10 years... way too early for the offspring to drop out.

friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.

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Originally Posted by higher4hockey

friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.

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none of us were fighting. we, stoners, were holding an organized, respectful, thoughtful, and overall smart debate.
btw do you live in philly?

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Originally Posted by higher4hockey

friendowl ~ I don't live in mexico, so my views are what they are. I'm sure that if I lived in mexico I would sing a different tune. I don't. All I'm saying is there is a right way, and a wrong way to do things. I think illegal immigration is wrong. I think that if they're caught, get rid of them!

I'm not going to fight about this, I've said how I feel.

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It's not that easy.

It's not just "I want a green card, let me fill out a form, wait a few months and get one" They only let through a very small amount of legal immigrants every year. And however horrible this sounds, I don't think the illegal act will be passed, or for that matter enforced, since it really is a cheap source of labor. here in LA.

They're just a group of people who want to make a better life for themselves. The American government supplies the powerful criminals in Mexico that keep the people so oppressed. I think where we need to start is helping the Mexicans in Mexico, by creating better school systems and such, or even imporving the school systems in America (millions of dollars every year get stolen from the school systems). The problem can't just be addressed by setting up a fence. We need to attack the problem at its source.

^ that i can agree with.


smart debate.... i don't know much about it...so im not gonna debate/fight without knowing my say. (maybe i should quit watchin american history x so much eh? )


no i do not, but i do live in PA

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Originally Posted by higher4hockey

^ good point.

but answer me this, what good comes from illegal immigrants?

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what good comes from half of the motherfucker in america? given, those rich corporate bosses do provide us with money, but the decisions they make are based on what they need. Not all illegal immigrants are good, but they are people along with every other America and to classify them as criminals all of a sudden is absurd, especially since i've seen alot of immigrants work there ass off while getting f'n bullied by ppl like you