Never tried it, but I know for sure blue lotus works. Make a tea out of the flowers and smoke the flowers at the same time: works like a charm. Oh, try a beer or two with it also. And as for lsa, I think u may well be very unpleasantly surprised. I ordered hb woodrose seeds, scraped them completely of their coating that makes you sick, ate em at 8 and was sick till 4 in the morning. I think the stuff that makes you sick is actually in the seed itself as well as the coating, so maybe there's another method, but damn I'd rather let someone take a swing at my leg with a ballbat than eat that shit again.