I hope it passes too.
Well, if we vote it has a chance of passing. If we don't vote then it never will.
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I hope it passes too.
Well, if we vote it has a chance of passing. If we don't vote then it never will.
Dont just vote....CALL 1-202-224-3121 and tell your members of congress/senate that they only way they'll ever get your vote is by listening to you.
dai*ma :D
Actually Daima it would be better if everyone interested in fixing this got together 50 people who agree and vote. 500 activists X 50 friends =25,000 votes. No politition can ignore 25,000 votes, especially in a senatorial or congressional race.
Alone we have no power. With 25,000 friends we can change the world.
Politicians can and do ignore votes. They now use voting machines to avoid our demands. No paper trail.
dai*ma :confused: call 1-202-224-3121 and let your voice be heard.
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Originally Posted by newactivist
If voting really could change anything it would be illegal
The reason for voting is to replace rule of the gun. That is what I find so extremely dangerous with these machines or any voting methods that are not absolutely above reproach. If we the people truly believe our votes no longer matter then our support for this government will collapse. Very, very dangerous ground. I hope our political parties realize this in their ever greater efforts reaching for the levers of power. They haven't figured out yet what power really is, only how to manipulate it.
However, if the votes are even remotely honest then the only way the polititions could ignore them is to declare our constitution void. Voter initiative is an escape valve mechanism built into our government for exactly this reason. Refer to the paragraph above for what happens without it.
Our constitution has been void for quite some time now. It's interpretation is left in the hands of their buddies on the ussc. bye bye miss american pie.
Welcome to the wasteland of the free.
dai*ma :D
"A revolution every two hundred years is good for any country....even if their is bloodshed. Even in America."
-Thomas Jefferson
Tom is right. When we have our voices taken away, or votes taken away/watered down, the only option left for the masses is a violent reaction.
Lock and load my fellow americans. this could get messy. :stoned:
Wow daima, a little less sativa in your diet. Try some indica, it will help you relax.
Our constitution isn't void. Our government isn't the anti-Christ and nobody is calling for our guns here. We just seem to be getting our voices drowned out in Washington for all the screaming interests and money. Washington can't seem to see the forest cause all the damn trees are in the way.
Daima, isn't there some other form of extremist, revolutionary or conspiracy site you should be at? Are you in the right place?
The people i worry about are those who call those speaking their minds, extremist. Let me know if anything i said or believe is in any way inaccurate. I will be more than happy to take you by the hand and explain.
By the way, i only grow and use Indica's. Your passive aggressive implication is right in line with your suggesting that those who hold a different view and have the courage to speak their minds in the face of those like you who want to call us "extremist. You tow the line well my friend. Let me guess....did fox news tell you what to call us, or did some other SNN american "news" channel? I say SNN because it is after all, the Selective News Network.
I also believe that in this forum we have , Activism, Politics, etc etc. You seem upset because my views differ from yours. g. get over it.
You also seems to contradict yourself in your statement. You cant have it both ways. You cant say our voices are nil due to special interests groups, and then say with the other lip, our constitution is in tact. Drugwar? Illegal
DEA? unelected. power that only elected officials should have. Rampant drug testing? Illegal, etc etc , but these capitalist whores we call our government keep doing things to the people that their rich friends want done to us. The largest prison population the world has ever seen. Billions spent of prisons and war, while schools close, daycare centers close, senior homes close, seniors go without food, medicine, heat/electricity, etc etc. These arent the hallmarks of a free society. These are the hallmarks of a police state.
You know what? I would like to actually thank you...and here's why....
You have help me confirm what i had always felt...., and that is...i would rather have names thrown at me than to fight a fight or defend a thing that i dont believe is right. :thumbsup: Thanks.
You raise two kids and take care of a couple of grandkids and i promise you that their safety and wellbeing will become your life's mission. Not only will you feel the need to protect your kids from people you dont know, you will also do what it takes to protect them from a government who views them as exspendable.\
dai*ma:D
Don't get me wrong Daima, I'm not arguing many of your points except a couple. It is everyone in this countries responsibility to try to fix the things we believe wrong in our country but there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. When I read in your post about bloodshed it is time to slow up. There is a time and place for revolution when we are living under a totalitarian regime. However, we as a country are nowhere close to that.
Interesting that you put in here about how many of our citizens are in jail. Ties right in with the fact that they constantly have to make room for marijuana offenders so they release murderers and rapists. Ties right into the fact that the prison industry writes the mandatory sentencing laws that our "leaders" sign into law and we have to suffer for. However, if the government would learn to seperate marijuana from the other hard drugs I would mostly go along with their anti-drug efforts. I follow the Singapore route when it comes to crack, meth and heroin. Not because of the damage they do physically; I've seen people huff gasoline for a buzz. I feel that way because, by being physically addictive, they take away peoples freedom of choice. Nobody said drugs were good for you but when we decide to pull our shit together again we should be able to. Once hooked on those most of us lose that choice. I feel that prison sentences should be relatively short doing brutally useless mind numbing work. If you refuse to work then you don't eat and if they starve themselves to death then it's an end to all our problems. I don't work I don't eat either so it seems fair to me. After the third time convicted by a jury of your peers for selling crack, heroin or meth you get hung. I know, it's an extreme position so I usually don't mention it but that is the way I feel. Dealers in those drugs need to know beyond all doubt that society really doesn't appreciate their greed and the lost lives/potential of our citizens.
It seems to me that we need to have a way to replace the LEO jobs lost to the end of prohibition. Why can't they designate drugs for recreational use? Drugs that are mostly non-damaging and non-addictive. Nobody wants to take dangerous, illegal and bathroom chemistry drugs if there is a comparable and safe alternative. The jobs would be created by the regulation of them and it would replace dangerous environments for police with a job focused more on regulatory oversight.
However, the first step is solving what both of us, for all our differing views, see mutually as the main problems. Marijuana is the most widely used illegal drug by far. It's physical and societal damage is negligable but the prohibition laws are ruining millions of lives and doing incalculable damage to our rights and freedoms. These laws are causing massive damage to our country and it's past time to end it.
The first step to solving these, in my opinion, are for fine states like Colorado and Nevada to take the lead in making this a safer and better society for all of us. We need to take away LEO's prohibition addiction, at least as far as marijuana is concerned. Just another step on the journey.