Cool Link. The effects and dangers of smoking marijuana.

Nice correlation, Mr. D.

It's the same kind of shitty excuse for science that has been used to villify second hand smoke and ban smoking in bars, restaurants and in the case of California, even outdoor smoking.
All correlation and no actual causation.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

to cite an example of a drug study:

If a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B).
therfor, if a person smokes weed (B), then weed is why they're depressed (B).

doesn't work, yet most people buy that unforunately.

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It's not even that straightforward. It would be very difficult to show that if a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B). The most you're really likely to be able to show is that there seems to be some correlation between depression and smoking weed, which could mean a number of different things. It could mean that A causes B, that B causes A, that some other factor C causes both A and B, that C causes A and C and A both cause B, and so forth.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

In philosophy we've been studying the varrying types of logical falacies. one, called "modus tollens", seems to be the fallable method used for 99% of the anti-drug "studies" I've seen.

To explain modus tollens:

If A, then B.
therfor, if B, then A.

expanded to a situation

if it's raining (A), then I get wet (B).
therfor, if I'm wet (B), then it must be raining (A).
obviously there are numerous other causes that cause you to get wet, so your being wet does not by default mean it's raining.

and to cite an example of a drug study:

If a person is depressed (A), they smoke weed (B).
therfor, if a person smokes weed (B), then weed is why they're depressed (B).

doesn't work, yet most people buy that unforunately.

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Sort of the same thing for the gateway theory

If all heroin users started out smoking marijuana, then marijuana smokers will use heroin

If most cokeheads were potheads, then most potheads will be cokeheads

we all know thats falso!

How about this one?

If people knew the truth about Pot, it would be legal.
If people was legal, people would know the truth about it.

edit: I meant, if Pot was legal, people would know the truth about it.

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Originally Posted by daima

Many government studies suggest that cannabis effects blacks differently than whites. They were all false and based on lies, greed and racism.
As for the crack smokers? Comparing crack, heroin, or meth, to cannabis is one of the oldest drugwar tactics used by those in power to retain power. Get your head out of the "crack" of your ass. It's beginning to get hard to tell you apart.
dai*ma :o

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I agree with you dia*ma! :thumbsup:
All Government studies are done to verify their own ideas of whatever it is. You ever notice that Government studies NEVER contradict what the assholes are saying, They are all rigged to be that way! :mad:

I'm reading the studies done by Dr. Xiao Zhang. I, first, look at the references (of a web site, or study) and that's how you tell if it's just gonna be legit, or not.

Come-on people! why would our loving government lie to its people, If the government saids its unsafe then bygawd its unsafe. They only want the best for its people. safety first, pleasure never.... :stoned:



War is Peace ------- Freedom is Slavery ------- Ignorance is Strength

Most studies also used near lethal amounts (like an insane amount) and sealed monkeys in a box, nearly killed them, then said that weed was bad

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

How about this one?

If people knew the truth about Pot, it would be legal.
If people was legal, people would know the truth about it.

edit: I meant, if Pot was legal, people would know the truth about it.

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Very good!!!