Supreme Court deems "intelligent design" unconstitutional in public schools

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Originally Posted by eg420ne

Isnt Buddhism one of the oldest religions in the world..

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They said it's the oldest "existing" religions.

Interesting....I just got the book "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology". Buddhism is in there under "The Myths of South and Central Asia".
Just kind of shows that the religions of today could very well be the myths of the future.

I've just watched a video called "Hemplands" about the origins of hemp/marijuana in the US. It features commentary by Gatewood Galbraith, etc. and it mentions that hemp is believed to have originated in the far East and it has been around since as long as .......... damn my short term memory.

Maybe the 2 go hand in hand. I sure like the comments on this thread. I too read the news article about the science teaching in school. I gotta agree with Psycho4bud. School is for learning a bit of everything. I'm old enough to say I learned the Bible in school. I don't regret it, but I sure have rethunk my views on it.

I especially liked eg420ne and the idea that the supreme court deems itself intelligent by design . . . . absolutely priceless!!!!

The best teachers for Comparative Religion in the schools would be those that are objective - such as Atheists.

Instructors that believe in religious gobbledygook are not qualified to teach this subject without interjecting their personal prejudices.


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I was thrilled by this decision and even MORE thrilled that the ruling judge was appointed by President Bush himself. Liberal, activist judges? Not this time folks.

Lets quote some text from the ruling: (bold mine)

"Those who disagree with our holding will likely mark it as the product of an activist judge. If so, they will have erred as this is manifestly not an activist Court. Rather, this case came to us as the result of the activism of an ill-informed faction on a school board, aided by a national public interest law firm eager to find a constitutional test case on ID, who in combination drove the Board to adopt an imprudent and ultimately unconstitutional policy. The breathtaking inanity of the Board's decision is evident when considered against the factual backdrop which has now been fully revealed through this trial. The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources."

Thank god for checks and balances.

Well, I just thank God that Bush is your leader and not ours. We have enough problems with our leaders without having a leader who is a war monger and a hypocrit!!!

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Just watched a special tonight regarding religions. The only religion that would accept everyone was Buddhism. The rest either denied entry to heaven or there would at least be some serious issues to be addressed in the after life. Just in case....kind of hope the Buddists are the lucky winner! :thumbsup:

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Well, the Islam minister said as long you accept "God" then, Jews, Christians, Muslims will all be in heaven. If we watched the same thing, it was on ABC about Heaven?

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Originally Posted by mfactor420

Well, I just thank God that Bush is your leader and not ours. We have enough problems with our leaders without having a leader who is a war monger and a hypocrit!!!

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Thanks for rubbing it in asshole ;)

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I'd rather see the study of all religions than none at all. I thought the purpose of school was to learn about different things and to get socialized with other types of people.

What should we ban from schools next?
Does that ring a bell?

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The study of religions and the systematic brainwashing of a society are two different things. Children are taught about different countries and the beliefs and customs practiced there. That is education. The morning Pledge of Allegiance, however, is brainwashing (I'm not against the pledge btw, just making a point). The people who want religion back in the schools do not want education, they want children to be taught that Christianity is the "Truth" and everybody who disagrees will burn in hell. That, is brainwashing.

I'm actually not against teaching about religions in school. I think it is important on a socio-cultural level. I spent a semester studying Eastern Religions(Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, other) and then another semester studying Buddhism specifically. I'm glad I took them and found these classes to be extremely valuable to my understanding of East Asian culture (my minor). I do think, however, that religion shouldn't be taught until at least the high school level, if not left to college. Kids need to be at a point whwre they can understand it is just a belief, not the absolute truth. If parents want their kids brainwashed they can do it at home or send them to Sunday school.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

The study of religions and the systematic brainwashing of a society are two different things. Children are taught about different countries and the beliefs and customs practiced there. That is education. The morning Pledge of Allegiance, however, is brainwashing (I'm not against the pledge btw, just making a point). The people who want religion back in the schools do not want education, they want children to be taught that Christianity is the "Truth" and everybody who disagrees will burn in hell. That, is brainwashing.

I'm actually not against teaching about religions in school. I think it is important on a socio-cultural level. I spent a semester studying Eastern Religions(Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, other) and then another semester studying Buddhism specifically. I'm glad I took them and found these classes to be extremely valuable to my understanding of East Asian culture (my minor). I do think, however, that religion shouldn't be taught until at least the high school level, if not left to college. Kids need to be at a point whwre they can understand it is just a belief, not the absolute truth. If parents want their kids brainwashed they can do it at home or send them to Sunday school.

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I agree with ya on everything except for the Pledge. I think, in a way, this is the first real lesson to kids about loyalty. Some of these NARCS should have listened to the words and meaning instead of just memorize and talk.

The big hangup on the Pledge seems to be the phrase "One Nation Under God"....which God, other religions assume it's the Christians God and the Athiests just have a problem with it all together. I think the Athiests could skip a line without having a fit...don't you?