Suicide: The Facts

lmao, buck up. this dude i barely knew jumped off a water tower cuz his girl broke up with him. he didn't succeed, he's just a lil slow now & still healing from broken bones. now that dumbass needed to buck up.

Telling depressed people to buck up is the worst thing you can tell them, according to mental health experts. It doesn't help at all and makes em feel more morthless and guilty for not being able to buck up.

Depression is a physical ailment that takes time to subside or can be helped by prescription meds.

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Originally Posted by RastaKaze

Just thought I'd make a little reference thread for anyone feeling suicidal... There seems to be a ALOT of these threads lately, and to me at least, it's getting old. So here's something for all you people with 'such horrible' lives to think about.

Suicide: The Facts

1 . It's selfish. You lie dead, while you're family is left with the grief of you're death. Not to mention the expenses :)

2 . It's pussyfied. BUCK UP! There are millions of people in third world countries that have it WAY worse then you ever will.

3 . It's stupid. Life is an amazing thing, and yours could be turned around in a second... Just hang in there.

4 . It's pointless. Do you actually think your going to experience any relief of your grievances by DIEING? Nope, you're just DEAD. And that's it. So make the best of what you have now; LIFE!

Hope this helps some lost soul...

Peace :rasta:
Rasta

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No offense. But this is the most ignorant asinine post I have ever seen.

Do some reading about this subject before you go spouting off about something as serious as this.

While what you say can be true, suicide, while tragic and seemingly pointless is the sign of a mental illness. People who attempt and/or commit suicide are not rational and cannot be judged as such.

I wonder how many types of suicide there are. There's the kind where someone tries for attention...and accidently follows through. Then there's the person who under the influence of a drug or alcohol ( a legal drug) takes their own life in a wrong state of mind...not what they would normally do.
That's only two scenarios. The first could be considered selfish...but it's still being done in the wrong state of mind.

"mental illness"? mental illness??!?

mental is incapable of becoming ill, the way a person thinks and feels cannot be chalked up to ILLNESS. illness affects the brain, it affects the body, IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE MIND! perhaps it secondhandedly affects the mind, for example, misery. the misery you might feel in learning you will never again be able to communicate properly, because you're missing a huge portion of brain matter.

There are also those that feel so lost and hopeless they cannot bear to go on. Depression is biological disorder that can cause one to lose hope. At the time I was Diagnosed with MS, I was hospitilized for depression. Depression is a sympton of MS. As I had been undiagnosed and untreated (misdiagnosed actually) I was seriously thinking of it. I just was so tired of being tired and ill with no answers. I was unable to work, uninsured and had very little income. I can understand how someone gets there.
With that said, and while I sympathize, I am not a proffesional and this is not a mental health site. Those that find themselves in serious trouble should call 911 or go to their local emergency room. There is help and things can improve. This is not something to play around with.

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Originally Posted by motahead

No offense. But this is the most ignorant asinine post I have ever seen.

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Ha! There must be a more diplomatic way of saying it!

:)

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Originally Posted by WeBB15

I do know what you mean though, nothing is an excuse for suicide, I agree wholeheartedly... but to tell someone to buck up, is somethign I would never agree with.

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Exchange the words "buck up" for "move on" or "live in the moment". I understand that some tragedy is worse then others, but there is nothing to be gained from reliving abuse in your head over and over.

Lots of people have been molested/beaten/raped. Most people simply don't make themselves relive it so as to "buck up" or "move on" or "live in the moment" because as long as they aren't being molested/beaten/raped right now then theres no reason to act like it.

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

"mental illness"? mental illness??!?

mental is incapable of becoming ill, the way a person thinks and feels cannot be chalked up to ILLNESS. illness affects the brain, it affects the body, IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE MIND! perhaps it secondhandedly affects the mind, for example, misery. the misery you might feel in learning you will never again be able to communicate properly, because you're missing a huge portion of brain matter.

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Dude what planet do you live on? Do you hang out with Tom Cruise?

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Originally Posted by Roadking

I wonder how many types of suicide there are. There's the kind where someone tries for attention...and accidently follows through. Then there's the person who under the influence of a drug or alcohol ( a legal drug) takes their own life in a wrong state of mind...not what they would normally do.
That's only two scenarios. The first could be considered selfish...but it's still being done in the wrong state of mind.

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Check it out.

http://www.relst.uiuc.edu/durkheim/S...s/suicide.html

Educate yourselves.