Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
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Originally Posted by Torog
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
New York Daily News ^ | 11/18/05 | Editorial
Whatever happened to Semper Fi?
Congressman John Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, is a retired Marine colonel, decorated Vietnam veteran, ranking member of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, longtime supporter of the military and a noted hawk who was an early advocate of the U.S. incursion into Iraq - a man, in short, none would call faint of heart. When such a figure declares that the time has come for America to turn tail and bug out, his views carry more weight than do the similar assessments of the Dennis Kuciniches and Barbara Boxers and Cindy Sheehans of the world. But, sadly, he is as wrongheaded as they are, and Murtha might as well be sending up the white flag for all the terrorist gangs to see. Doubtless there is much rejoicing in Al Qaeda's rat holes this day over still another encouraging cut-and-run signal from U.S. shores that maybe someday soon, with U.S. troops pulled out, the rodents will have Iraq - and beyond - all to themselves.
Murtha's mouthings arrive hard on the heels of ex-President Bill Clinton, whose utterly disgraceful shame-on-America remarks in Dubai the other day could only have made it sufficiently plain to many millions of Middle Easterners, both those who are with us and those who are not, that the United States cannot be counted on to stand behind the historic mission that toppled the butcher Saddam Hussein, helped persuade crazed Libya to give up its nuclear intentions, was instrumental in driving Syria out of Lebanon and is daily leaning hard on the malevolent mullahs of Iran.
Defeatism, it's called. Willingness to give it all up. In Washington, it isn't so much the war effort is going badly as it is the poll numbers are going badly. Congress has a nervous eye on America's popular distemper, and many on Capitol Hill want some idea of a withdrawal deadline. But a commander would be mad to even consider setting such a deadline, inviting an implacable foe to sit tight and wait it out.
There's still a job to be done - a miserable slog, no doubt, and one, it is true, that could and should have been undertaken more efficiently from the beginning. But the job cannot be left unfinished. Yes, defeatism is in the American wind, there's no question about that. It must not prevail. For what is already in the wind far across the sea is the gleeful, hideous laughter of a triumphant enemy.
i know this goes against your ability to discern, torog, but how can you support this?
and how about those in kelo and all around the country who are finding out that property rights no longer exist in America? just fuck them, right? you don't care about freedom...shame on you, where are you standing up for people in this country losing their rights? as we us depleted uranium and other Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the first Gulf War for Empire?...
why are we using WMD on people to stop other countries from using WMD on people?
how can you just ignore this? you don't care about freedom...you're wildly handing it over to the government, the government that's responsible for 9/11 and you know this, not some 19 freedom hating hijackers who couldn't fly planes and were followed in and out of the country and taken out of the airport computers and who lived with FBI informants...
i want to know why you hate freedom torog?
everyone go out and blindly worship the loving government.
The Ringworm Children
Ringworm and Radiation
Barry Chamish | August 19, 2004
On August 14, at 9 PM, Israel's Channel Ten television screened a documentary film which exposes the ugliest secret of Israel's Labor party founders: the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths of a generation.
"The Ringworm Children" (translated in Hebrew as "100,000 Rays"), directed by David Belhassen and Asher Hemias, recently won the prize for "best documentary" at the Haifa International film festival, and in the past year has made the rounds of Jewish and Israeli film festivals around the world. But it had yet to come to Israeli television screens. The subject is the mass irradiation of hundreds of thousands of young Israeli immigrants from Middle Eastern countries -- Sephardim, as they are called today. The story goes like this:
In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba, flew to America and returned with seven x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.
They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today.
To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, while many of the rest developed cancers that killed thousands over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.
That is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen.
To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35,000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like. "I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away."
To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street. "I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."
To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children: "They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel. Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"
Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"
The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.
The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952. The maximum dose to be given a child in Israel was .5 rad. There was no mistake made. The children were deliberately poisoned.
David Deri makes the point that only Sephardi children received the x-rays: "I was in class and the men came to take us on a tour. They asked our names. The Ashkenazi children were told to return to their seats. The dark children were put on the bus."
The film presents a historian who first gives a potted history of the eugenics movement. In a later sound bite, he declares that the ringworm operation was a eugenics program aimed at weeding out the perceived weak strains of society. The Moroccan lady is back on the screen. "It was a Holocaust, a Sephardi Holocaust. And what I want to know is why no one stood up to stop it."
David Deri, on film and then as a panel member, relates the frustration he encountered when trying to find his childhood medical records. "All I wanted to know was what they did to me. I wanted to know who authorized it. I wanted to trace the chain of command. But the Health Ministry told me my records were missing." Boaz Lev, the Health Ministry's spokesman chimes in: "Almost all the records were burned in a fire."
We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it. Here was the government cabinet at the time of the ringworm atrocities:
Prime Minister - David Ben Gurion; Finance Minister - Eliezer Kaplan; Settlement Minister - Levi Eshkol; Foreign Minister - Moshe Sharrett; Health Minister - Yosef Burg;
Labor Minister - Golda Meir; Police Minister - Amos Ben Gurion.
The highest ranking non-cabinet post belonged to the Director General of the Defence Ministry, Shimon Peres.
That a program involving the equivalent of billions of dollars of American government funds should be unknown to the Prime Minister of cash-strapped Israel is ridiculous. Ben Gurion had to have been in on the horrors and undoubtedly chose his son to be Police Minister in case anyone interfered with them.
Finance Minister Eliezer Kaplan was rewarded for eternity with a hospital named after him near Rehovot. But he's not alone in this honor. Chaim Sheba, who ran Ringworm Incorporated, had a whole medical complex named after him. Needless to say, if there is an ounce of decency in the local medical profession, those hospital names will have to change.
After the film ended, there was a panel discussion which included a Moroccan singer, David Edri, head of the Compensation Committee for Ringworm X-Ray Victims, and Boaz Lev, a spokesman for the Ministry Of Health.
TV host Dan Margalit tried to put a better face on what he'd witnessed. He explained meekly that "the state was poor. It was a matter of day to day survival." Then he stopped. He knew there was no excusing the atrocities which the Sephardi children endured.
But it was the Moroccan singer who summed up the experience best. "It's going to hurt, but the truth has to be told. If not, the wounds will never heal."
There is one person alive who knows the truth: Shimon Peres. The only way to get to the truth and start the healing is to investigate him for his role in the mass poisoning of over 100,000 Sephardi children and youth.
But here is why that won't happen. The film was aired at the same time as the highest-rated TV show of the year, the finale of Israel's talent-hunt show: "A Star Is Born." The next day, the newly-born star's photo took up half the front pages. There was not a word about "The Ringworm Children" in any paper, nor on the Internet. Until now.
The Ringworm Children - A Review
Barry Chamish | September 7, 2005
On August 14, at 9 PM, Israeli television station, Channel Ten, broke all convention and exposed the ugliest secret of Israel's Labor Zionist founders; the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths.
The expose began with the presentation of a documentary film called, The Ringworm Children, and concluded with a panel discussion moderated by TV host Dan Margalit, surprising because he is infamous for toeing the establishment line.
Subject: In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba flew to America and returned with 7 x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.
They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today. To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, while many of the rest developed cancers that killed them over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.
Yes, that is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen. ie. To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35,000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like.
"I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away."
To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street.
"I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."
To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children.
"They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel. Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"
Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"
Everyone notices that Israeli Sephardi women in their fifties today, often have sparse patchy hair, which they try to cover with henna. Most of us assumed it was just a characteristic of Sephardi women. We watch the woman on the screen wearing a baseball-style hat. She places a picture of a lovely young teenager with flowing black hair opposite the lens. "That was me before my treatment. Now look at me." She removes her hat. Even the red henna can't cover the horrifying scarred bald spots.
The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.
The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952. The maximum dose to be given a child in Israel was .5 rad. There was no mistake made. The children were deliberately poisoned.
David Deri, makes the point that only Sephardi children received the x-rays.
"I was in class and the men came to take us on a tour. They asked our names. The Ashkenazi children were told to return to their seats. The dark children were put on the bus."
The film presents a historian who first gives a potted history of the eugenics movement. In a later sound bite, he declares that the ringworm operation was a eugenics program aimed at weeding out the perceived weak strains of society. The film now quotes two noted anti-Sephardi racist Jewish leaders, Nahum Goldmann and Levi Eshkol.
Goldmann spent the Holocaust years first in Switzerland, where he made sure few Jewish refugees were given shelter, then flew to New York to become head of the World Jewish Congress headed by Samuel Bronfman. According to Canadian writer Mordecai Richler, Bronfman had cut a deal with Prime Minister Mackenzie King to prevent the immigration of European Jews to Canada.
But Levi Eshkol's role in the Holocaust was far more sinister than merely not saving lives. He was busy taking them instead. From a biography of Levi Eshkol from the Israeli government web site:
??In 1937 Levi Eshkol played a central role in the establishment of the Mekorot Water Company and in this role was instrumental in convincing the German government to allow Jews emigrating to Palestine to take with them some of their assets - mostly in the form of German-made equipment.?
While world Jewry was boycotting the Nazi regime in the '30s, the Jewish Agency in Jerusalem was propping up Hitler. A deal, called The Transfer Agreement, was cut whereby the Nazis would chase Germany's Jews to Palestine, and the Labor Zionists would force the immigrants to use their assets to buy only German goods. Once the Jewish Agency got the German Jews it wanted, those they secretly indoctrinated in the anti-Judaism of Shabtai Tzvi and Jacob Frank, they let the Nazis take care of the rest of European Jewry. The Holocaust was a eugenics program and Levi Eshkol played a major role in it.
The Moroccan lady is back on the screen. "It was a Holocaust, a Sephardi Holocaust. And what I want to know is why no one stood up to stop it."
David Deri, on film and then as a panel member, relates the frustration he encountered when trying to find his childhood medical records.
"All I wanted to know was what they did to me. I wanted to know who authorized it. I wanted to trace the chain of command. But the Health Ministry told me my records were missing."
Boaz Lev, the Health Ministry's spokesman chimes in, "Almost all the records were burned in a fire."
So let us help Mr. Deri trace the chain of command. But now I must intrude myself in the review. About six years ago, I investigated the kidnapping of some 4500, mostly Yemenite immigrant infants and children, during the early years of the state. I met the leader of the Yemenite children's movement, Rabbi Uzi Meshulum, imprisoned for trying to get the truth out. He was later returned home in a vegetative state from which he has not emerged. He told me that the kidnapped children were sent to America to die cruelly in nuclear experiments. The American government had banned human testing and needed guinea pigs. The Israeli government agreed to supply the humans in exchange for money and nuclear secrets. The initiator of Israel's nuclear program was Defence Ministry director-general Shimon Peres.
Rabbi David Sevilia of Jerusalem corroborated the crime and later, I even saw photos of the radiation scars on the few surviving children, and the cages the infants were shipped to America in.
Just over five years ago I published my belief on the internet, that Israel's Labor Zionist founders had conducted atomic experiments on Yemenite and other Sephardi children, killing thousands of them. Almost three years ago, I published the same assertion in my last book, Save Israel!. I suffered much scorn for doing so. However, I was right.
We return to the documentary. We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it.
Here was the government cabinet at the time of the ringworm atrocities:
- <LI class=subheadline_body>Prime Minister - David Ben Gurion <LI class=subheadline_body>Finance Minister - Eliezer Kaplan <LI class=subheadline_body>Settlement Minister - Levi Eshkol <LI class=subheadline_body>Foreign Minister - Moshe Sharrett <LI class=subheadline_body>Health Minister - Yosef Burg <LI class=subheadline_body>Labor Minister - Golda Meir <LI class=subheadline_body>Police Minister - Amos Ben Gurion
- The highest ranking non-cabinet post belonged to the Director General Of The Defence Ministry, Shimon Peres.
That a program involving the equivalent of billions of dollars of American government funds should be unknown to the Prime Minister of cash-strapped Israel is ridiculous. Ben Gurion was in on the horrors and undoubtedly chose his son to be Police Minister in case anyone interfered with them.
Now let's have a quick glance at the other plotters, starting with the Finance Minister Eliezer Kaplan. He handled the profits of the operation and was rewarded for eternity with a hospital named after him near Rehovot. But he's not alone in this honor. The racist bigot Chaim Sheba, who ran Ringworm Incorporated, had a whole medical complex named after him. Needless to say, if there is an ounce of decency in the local medical profession, those hospital names will have to change.
Then there is Yosef Burg, who the leaders of the Yemenite Children's movement insist was the most responsible for the kidnappings of their infants. As Health Minister, he certainly played a pivotal role in the Ringworm murders. That would go a great way to explaining the peculiar behavior of his son, the peacemaker, Avraham Burg.
Let us not forget Moshe Sharrett, who had Rabbi Yoel Brand arrested in Aleppo in 1944 for proposing a practical way to save 800,000 Jews trapped in Hungary. Sharrett's most cited quote is, "If Shimon Peres ever enters this government, I will tear my clothes and start to mourn." Several Yemenite Children activists told me Sharrett was referring to the kidnapping of the Yemenite children when he made this statement.
And other amateur historians have told me that Levi Eshkol openly and proudly announced his belief in the tenets of Shabtai Tzvi, but try as I have, I haven't tracked down a citation. However, we do know of Eshkol, that during the period of the radiations, he served first as Settlement Minister, then took over from Kaplan as Finance Minister. From his bio:
??In 1951 Eshkol was appointed Minister of Agriculture and Development, and from 1952 to 1963 - a decade characterized by unprecedented economic growth despite the burden of financing immigrant absorption and the 1956 Sinai Campaign - he served as Minister of Finance. Between 1949 and 1963, Eshkol also served as head of the settlement division of the Jewish Agency. In the first four years of statehood, he was also treasurer of the Jewish Agency, largely responsible for obtaining the funds for the country's development, absorption of the massive waves of immigrants and equipment for the army.?
In short, Eshkol was the person most responsible for Israel's immigrants, the ones he sent to radiation torture chambers.
Finally, there is Golda Meir. We don't know her role, but she was in on the secret and rewarded for it. Note that every prime minister thereafter until 1977, when the honorable Menachem Begin was elected, came from this cabal. And note also, that no one from what is called the Right today, was privy to the slaughter of the Sephardi children.
Apply that lesson to a contemporary fact: It is the descendants of these butchers who brought us the Oslo "peace" and are determined to wipe out the settlers of Judea, Samaria and Gaza as surely as they had dealt with the inferior dark Jews who came into their clutches fifty years before.
Now try and imagine it is 1952 and you are in a cabinet meeting. You will be debating whether to send the Yemenite babies to America for their final zapping, or whether to have them zapped here. That is what the Luciferian, satanic Sabbataian founders of our nation were prattling on about when they got together to discuss the affairs of state.
After the film ended, TV host Dan Margalit tried to put a better face on what he'd witnessed. Any face had to be better than what he had seen. He explained meekly, "But the state was poor. It was a matter of day to day survival." Then he stopped. He knew there was no excusing the atrocities the Sephardi children endured.
But it was the Moroccan singer who summed up the experience best. "It's going to hurt, but the truth has to be told. If not, the wounds will never heal."
There is one person alive who knows the truth and participated in the atrocities. He is Leader Of The Opposition Shimon Peres, the peacemaker. The only way to get to the truth and start the healing is to investigate him for his role in the kidnapping of 4500 Yemenite infants and the mass poisoning of over 100,000 Sephardi children and youths.
But here is why that won't happen. It is a miracle that The Ringworm Children was broadcast at all. Clearly though, someone fought for it but had to agree to a compromise. The show was aired at the same time as the highest-rated show of the year, the final of Israel's, A Star Is Born. The next day, there was not a word about The Ringworm Children in any paper, but the newly-born star's photo took up half the front pages.
That's how the truth is buried in Israel, and somehow, these tricks work. The same methods were used to cover up the Rabin assassination.
However, a few hundred thousand people saw the film on their screens and they will never forget the truth. If the Rabin assassination doesn't bury Labor Zionism for good, then The Ringworm Children eventually will.
A decent background piece on the subject of the Ringworm Holocaust is found at: Running rings around the victims.
I cover the subject and explain the motivations for the evil on my new audio CD and video called The Dirty Secrets Of Oslo.
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
Israel doesn't harbor terrorists? Yet they kill Islamic children and get away with it... they are committing the same awful crimes against humanity as their enemies. But I'm just a kid, so nevermind me. Plus, my brains are fried for sure.
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Born in 1988, he still IS a "kid".
BTW, CocaCola, Happy Birthday! Thank you for supporting a United States beverage corporation, even though you are from "Canaduh". Some of you would have named yourselves "Canada Dry".
Whoops, I'm supporting a US corperation and going against all my morals and ethics!11 You sir, are a fool. Whhat should I drink if not Coke? Is there some Canadian alternative?
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
[QUOTE=Torog]Howdy CocaCola,
Everyone should be against terrorism and it's very selfish and self-centered of you,to not fight it or to not support freedom and democracy for all. How can you have freedom..then turn yer back on those who don't ? Why should the Free World ,abide with terrorists and the countries that support such ? Why do you feel that it's okay for terrorists to git away with anything that they want?[\QUOTE]
I'm NOT against terrorism? Are you crazy? :D How could I support it? I never even said I did.
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You want to bomb Israel,a democracy,but you see no reason to stop terrorism..that's the height of self-centeredness to me.
Have a good one ....
And being a democracy doesn't mean anything. They still terrorize others with an ongoing war... for land. Their "Gods" land. That's terrorism to me.
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
Give em hell cocacola. They dont even care to watch CSPAN, 2 see our congresswomen & men have it out with each other, they just take their talkingpoints from foxnews and other nutbag right-wingers.. Orwell would be proud of the action of the republicans today.
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
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Ho Torog,
a year before bush stole the election, there were freedom fighters, now there are only nondescript terrorist surrounding you, threatening to rape your baby's and eat your women, this in itself is absurd.
From before the time of the crusaders and Saladin, the white christains have thought they knew what was best for the world, and have tried to push their perverted ideas of freedom onto the world.
now the u.s. and those they call allies are the only countries allowed to have nuclear weapons, the only countries free to use biological and untested weapons on their own people, even torture is within your means. where now do you draw the line between good and evil? are the good guys the ones that can have elections that can be rigged? are the good guys the ones that can torture and hold people without charges or trials? the good guys can bust down doors and drag people away in the dead of night never to be heard from again? got any real answers? or just the pap and drivel the government feeds you?
Howdy hempity,
You make some good points that are hard to argue with..the line between good and evil,is gittin blurred somewhat..and it's becoming more difficult to define the line.
My greatest concern,is abandoning those who thirst for freedom,to that end..maybe I have become too willing to allow the line between good and evil,to be blurred..I feel like I have to put up with more and more,coming from Bush and the repubs,in order to git-r-done..it seems that as with all men who have power-that if ya give em an inch,they'll won't settle for anything less than a mile.
Have a good one ...
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat00
don't worry Torog...Semper Fi still stands....I just spent 3 weeks surrounded by handsome marines....with their values intact.
They don't trust anyone that has never worn the uniform now do you really blame them?
Our military has the finest most trustworthy young people giving their everything for their country..
you don't worry about them worry about your elected officials that hid instead of serving their country and now try to pretend they know something about war. They see our soldiers as expendable...the cost of war....tell that to a mom or dad whos son is on the front lines. No life is expendable.
Howdy Blue Cat,
Surrounded by Marines ? Well that makes ya one lucky,young lady ! lol
I too,find it difficult to trust those who have not served and are un-willing to serve..but I try and give em the benefit of the doubt..I just want every American to realize that they should give back to this country..whether it be in service or clothing the naked and feeding the hungry.
I believe that you are right to some extent,in regards to the expendability of our soldiers,but we do not see the private moments of those who order others into battle,it could very well be,that they have shed many tears for the fallen..and their loss is like having the weight of the world,on their shoulders..I would hope that they have grieved in their private moments,but that they hide it,so that they won't give aid and succor to the enemy.
We the People,reserve the right to alter or abolish our goverment,as we see fit.. if it comes down to it,there are many in the military,I believe ,that will fight to restore a Constitutional Republic..as well as many veterans like me.
Have a good one !
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
Howdy pisshead,
Maybe yer right..maybe I should be ashamed..we are crossing the line in too many areas,both home and abroad..but I still stand firm on the idea that everyone deserves to be free..and that ain't gonna change one iota. No human is perfect-therefore-no solution dreamed up or executed by humans..will be 100% correct..and it could very well be,that our application of the solution,has become far too sloppy.
Have a good one ...
Whatever happened to Semper Fi ?
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Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy pisshead,
Maybe yer right..maybe I should be ashamed..we are crossing the line in too many areas,both home and abroad..but I still stand firm on the idea that everyone deserves to be free..and that ain't gonna change one iota. No human is perfect-therefore-no solution dreamed up or executed by humans..will be 100% correct..and it could very well be,that our application of the solution,has become far too sloppy.
Have a good one ...
Except, of course, Americans. We need to be slaves, as GW intended. Freedom is incompatable with the police state.
