San Francisco votes against guns, army recruiters

Day in the future everything is going to half to take a cut! Just a matter of time and the bill has to be paid. The Feds only responsibility the Fed should have is to protect. Which leads us back to terrorism.

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Originally Posted by Torog

San Francisco votes against guns, army recruiters-(heh San France)

ap ^ | 11.9.05 | na


SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Voters in famously liberal San Francisco overwhelmingly approved measures banning handguns and encouraging schools to keep military recruiters off campus, according to election results on Wednesday.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting results from Tuesday's election, Measure H, which prohibits San Franciscans from owning handguns and bans the sale of all firearms and ammunition in the city, passed with 57.9 percent of the vote.

The National Rifle Association said the measure's passage would prove a "hollow victory" for gun control activists and that it would file a lawsuit challenging the measure.

"Lawful residents of San Francisco are being stripped of their freedom because of an illegal measure that defies common sense. We will fight this outrageous assault on the rights of law-abiding San Franciscans and I believe that we will prevail," association vice-president Wayne LaPierre said in statement.

Measure I, a largely symbolic "declaration of policy that the people of San Francisco oppose the federal government's use of public schools to recruit students for service in the military," passed with 59.7 percent of votes.

The measure will have no effect on military recruiters as they are allowed on school grounds under federal law, according to U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of Defense.

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looks like ROTC takes a big hit, can't say that is bad.
after jacking up kids with all the propaganda on tv about how cool it is to war and fight, and how the us has saved the world so many times, to give them ordnance and tell them to kill only makes them murderers anyway. still i can see them demanding to foster hate in any child they want.
but to try to take any body's guns is silly, who do they think made them, guns and propellant are easy to make.

btw. isn't France the one that gave you that ignored statue on ellis island.

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Originally Posted by hempity

looks like ROTC takes a big hit, can't say that is bad.
after jacking up kids with all the propaganda on tv about how cool it is to war and fight, and how the us has saved the world so many times, to give them ordnance and tell them to kill only makes them murderers anyway. still i can see them demanding to foster hate in any child they want.
but to try to take any body's guns is silly, who do they think made them, guns and propellant are easy to make.

btw. isn't France the one that gave you that ignored statue on ellis island.

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Howdy hempity,

Freedom ain't free..we didn't git to where we are at,by being pacifists and rolling over for King George of England.

Currently,there isn't any kind of education,at the hands of liberals,that teaches responsibility and duty,to one's country-or leadership,like the ROTC does. The modern liberals,have forsaken one of their own,President Kennedy,when he said" Ask not what your country can do for you..but what can you do for your country"..modern liberals teach our children to do just the opposite,duty and honor,are looked upon as detrimental values instead,and it's all about taking..and never giving.

As for France,what little good they had in them,was destroyed by socialism and communism,since they gave America the Statue of Liberty.

Have a good one ...

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

San Fran.......the U.S. version of France! :smokin:

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

That's a big 10-4 !

If the gun ban sticks,crime will rise exponentially..there's alot of affluent folks there,that will become victims of criminals who now know-that they won't be able to defend themselves..call 911..and die.

Have a good one !

Since Federal law regarding Marijuana overrides all state and local laws, wouldn't the right to bear arms fall under the same jurisdiction? :rasta:

well now that i think about it, San Francisco is full of Fairies that probably dont own guns anway

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Originally Posted by Tholiak

well now that i think about it, San Francisco is full of Fairies that probably dont own guns anway

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Saddam asked for some bombs from the Gun Fairy.....guess he got his wish! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

San Fran.......the U.S. version of France! :smokin:

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Now that's hitting below the belt Psycho :(

I live down in San Jose but it's still part of the San Francisco Bay Area. We are a lot different from France

1. We use deoderant (except for people in Berkeley, waaay too liberal)
2. We have some of the best weed around
3. We aren't afraid of the Germans.
4. We don't wear berets
5. We aren't rude (Unless your name is G. W Bush, in which case I fart in your general direction (said with a French accent) ;)

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

Now that's hitting below the belt Psycho :(

I live down in San Jose but it's still part of the San Francisco Bay Area. We are a lot different from France

1. We use deoderant (except for people in Berkeley, waaay too liberal)
2. We have some of the best weed around
3. We aren't afraid of the Germans.
4. We don't wear berets
5. We aren't rude (Unless your name is G. W Bush, in which case I fart in your general direction (said with a French accent) ;)

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Got me there...LOL..... :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Torog

If the gun ban sticks,crime will rise exponentially..there's alot of affluent folks there,that will become victims of criminals who now know-that they won't be able to defend themselves..call 911..and die.

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Wow, sounds scary. Of course, that entire line of thinking is bullshit. They've done plenty of studies and for some magical reason, crime actually doesn't decrease when you interject more guns into the system. I suspect it has something to do with guns being an instrument of violence rather than a deterient. Just like how the death penalty has never proven to be a deterient against violent crime.

Ever seen the UK's violent crime reports?

On another note, speaking of crime, I think we should actually blame capitalism for crime. The whole notion of "something for nothing". Or if that's unfair, shall we say, maximizing profits while minimizing expenses. The concept of profiting directly from the loss of another. Its animalistic. Obviously as a society we have to share. Farmers produce and share grain, Doctors share healthcare, entertainers share music, etc. I don't know if humanity is really ready for socialism, but it's a beautiful concept.