man it's just taken me half an hour to make this...

i can't roll with cigarette tobacco its too dry and its like rolling with sand and everthing ends up dropping out of the paper all over the place. i also dislike the taste of it. i much prefer rolling baccy, i guess its what you're used to. Filters??? what a waste! i have heard that in australia u can buy Marlboro rolling tobocco, now that i'd like to try.

anyway the longest i must have taken to roll a spliff mush have been when i was really crap at it, i'd end up giving up and getting one of my mates to do it for me!!

Hey
In Pakistan, we get copious amounts of hash, but there is nary any weed to speak of. Anyways, when rolling a CJ (or a joint in a cigarette) pull the filter out with your teeth after your finish packing it - then tear 60 odd percent of the filter out, and dispose of it. Push the remaining filter back in, and there you have it - a inconspicious looking cigarette that packs the punch of having no filter - also, since the cigg paper burns faster than rolling paper, lick the top half of the CJ on 2 sides, so it'll burn much slower and in a much more even fashion.
As for hash, before you break it up - take about 10 minutes rubbing it down - by this I mean apply a little saliva to it in your hand, and knead it as if it were bread dough - in a few minutes even the hardest hash will become pliable. this compression of the resin creates a much more potent high, and it last longer, and cuts the risk of a headache down. Once the hash is pliable, take a piece, attatch it to a pokey, burn it for about 10 seconds (more depending on size and hardness) - at this point, it's lost no THC, but it literally melts over the tabbaco, giving a smooth sheen, devoid of rocky bits. it'll smoke cleanly, and no frags will fall to burn ones clothes.
Hope it helped
Take Care
Mishal

Hey
In Pakistan, we get copious amounts of hash, but there is nary any weed to speak of. Anyways, when rolling a CJ (or a joint in a cigarette) pull the filter out with your teeth after your finish packing it - then tear 60 odd percent of the filter out, and dispose of it. Push the remaining filter back in, and there you have it - a inconspicious looking cigarette that packs the punch of having no filter - also, since the cigg paper burns faster than rolling paper, lick the top half of the CJ on 2 sides, so it'll burn much slower and in a much more even fashion.
As for hash, before you break it up - take about 10 minutes rubbing it down - by this I mean apply a little saliva to it in your hand, and knead it as if it were bread dough - in a few minutes even the hardest hash will become pliable. this compression of the resin creates a much more potent high, and it last longer, and cuts the risk of a headache down. Once the hash is pliable, take a piece, attatch it to a pokey, burn it for about 10 seconds (more depending on size and hardness) - at this point, it's lost no THC, but it literally melts over the tabbaco, giving a smooth sheen, devoid of rocky bits. it'll smoke cleanly, and no frags will fall to burn ones clothes.
Hope it helped
Take Care
Mishal

wen im rollin a joint with weed that is dry enough it takes me 2 mins but if im rollin with solids it takes me about 10 mins.
i no wat u meen about takin the tobaco out if you've got no papers i dont smoke it with the filter i push it out wen ive taken out the tobaco and then just put a roach in.

by the way a roach is jus a bit of the flap on a paket of papers and rolled up to fit the end like a filter but it doesnt filter so you get pure smoke
:rasta: :D

The longest it's taking me was 3 hours.

The quickest was 3 minutes. Or something short like that. I felt like a pro.

I always used to find it difficult to roll after a heavy night of alcohol and class a's. One of many reasons i only drink and use herb now.

acidtrip I ALWAYS use tobacco from a cigarette for my joints. I prefer the tatst coz i cant stand rolling backy. Just my :twocents:

Peace

Buddy (rolling his first jay of the day with ciggy backy! :thumbsup:

I roll with cigarette tobbacco, but put it in a rizla! The paper that is used to make fags burns on its own, so if your stuffing it full of weed smoke it quickly. Iwouldn't reccomend it tho, fags are too short, you dont want your weed being filtered and if u leave it burning there'll nothing left.