Should We Re-Legalize Drugs?

Or should that be a good advert for drug abuse? Depends what message you're trying to get across, I suppose. Not what I expect from a pot head though. Still, your loss. I shall take my opinions back to 'my rock' where I feel more welcome.

Oh and Toker, don't worry mate, I'll be getting me Icke hat back on again sooner or later. Thought I'd give it a rest for a while though, I don't want it to become monotomous. :D

My attitude has nothing to do with pot it has to do with being human. You'd like to watch people suffering and hold them up as an example of what man made drugs do, I'd rather have enough beds in detox centres so they wouldn't need to suffer. I want the natural plant cannabis legalised as it is non-addictive and has no short term danger in it's use. You'd like to legalised heroin and crack which can kill in one dose and which it's suppliers can't wait to get people addicted to. I do apologise for suggesting you crawled out from under a rock, things under rocks are usually more intelligent than that.

peace :rolleyes:

Well what do you know about it? On message boards you tend to come across different opinions. Maybe you need to accept this before coming on here. I was a heroin and crack addict for 6 years. I went through so many different 'treatments' that I've lost count. I also appreciate the difficulty in financing a habit that can cost between £40-£400 per day. lf It was legalised and available on prescription then it wipes out that problem, which also wipes out 80% of crime, and the huge amounts of money that are at present going to black market criminals.
Holding them up as a lesson to others would be a small price to pay, and, done sensitively obviously, would bring enormous benefit to both addict and potential addict.
It's just an idea, it may not work. But I shouldn't need to worry about that seeing as I only posted it on a fucking message board, after Toker asked the question 'should drugs be legalised?'

Oh, and heroin can only 'kill in one dose' if sold on the black market in unknown purities.
Another reason for legalising it, me thinks!

Having had two partners who were heroin addicts and whom I helped get through detox I believe I know quite a bit about it. Aren't there enough addicts to hold up yet? I applaud your strength in beating heroin and crack and everyone is entitled to their opinion but everyone else is entitled to argue with that opinion. Taking cannabis off the statute books would allow the police and customs to concentrate on class 'A' drugs and on that my opinion is quite close behind the Thai government.

peace :)

The drug war is a failure in all it's forms. If you support drug laws of any kind, then your supporting the drug war and all it's Freedom killing, prison filling glory. There are loads of legal drugs that can kill. I don't need no stinking laws telling what I can and can't put in my body. Drugs don't make people suffer, drug laws do. As long as you think people need to be controled like that, the longer their suffering will continue. How much suffering goes on in the prisons that are full of non-violent drug users? Your own drug use is mild of course, and there for should be legal. How very hypocritical of you! Drugs can kill, but so can a lot of things. You know what the real problem with drug laws is? The people that do the drugs, will do them whether there are laws against it or not. You won't win the drug war by putting more effort into going after hard drugs. That kind of thinking will only create more drug laws, and more suffering to go along with the new laws.

Toker

It's hypocritical to want a natural, safe, plant legalised but not lethal man made drugs? Hmm, not up your usual standard Toker. And there's "loads of legal" medicines that can kill, I'm not aware of any single sitting lethal recreational drugs other than alcohol that are legal. The non-violent drug users in prison are the cannabis users and I was not referring to users but importers and dealers. I believe locking up users can only be detrimental, detox centre places must be increased. A tax on cannabis, which will happen when it's legalised, would pay for these and many more national benefits. Convincing a politician to legalise a plant, as a separate issue to class 'A' drugs, is far more likely than your legalise everything stance will ever be.

peace :)

you've flooded this board with libertarian propaganda while leaving the old politics board without its top logic cop!

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"It's hypocritical to want a natural, safe, plant legalised but not lethal man made drugs?"

Yes, it is. It is hypocritical for you to say your buzz is ok, but anothers is not. I haven't died from my use of said drugs. You act as if every one that does anything other then weed is going to die on the spot. Cigs kill hundreds of thousands a year. Do you wish to make laws criminalizing that also? Tobacco is lethal. Will you save us from it with laws?

"And there's "loads of legal" medicines that can kill, I'm not aware of any single sitting lethal recreational drugs other than alcohol that are legal."

Nice try, but i wasn't talking about just recreational. Since they are illegal and unregulated, the quality is corrupted and can account for quite a few of the overdoeses. Lots of legal drugs can kill just as easy as illegal ones without the controls on quality and doesage. Get a load of this, the people that died due to overdose, died even though there were laws against using the drugs.

"The non-violent drug users in prison are the cannabis users"

Your kidding right? You think just because someone is in for coke or something, that they are violent, and all the people in for weed are non-violent? What a warped way of thinking that is. So if I was minding my own biz and doing a few lines, and got busted, would you think I was violent because of that? Prohibition is what creates the violence. End prohibition and you will end the violence.

"A tax on cannabis, which will happen when it's legalised, would pay for these and many more national benefits."

A tax on weed is why it is illegal in the first place. Sales tax from a distributer I don't mind. But if your talking tax stamp to grow, then I am against it 100%. I don't like over regulating things. Your tax the weed plan would more then likely do just that.

"Convincing a politician to legalise a plant, as a separate issue to class 'A' drugs, is far more likely than your legalise everything stance will ever be."

It's not the politicians that need convincing, it's the voters. I won't settle for doing away with only part of the drug war just because it seems a more likely win. There is no reason to continue the drug war. It has failed, and failed in a big way. What is the reason you want to keep trying a failed program? Oh yeah, people can OD and die. The drug war kills also. It's leathal to innocent people that don't even do drugs, and even to whole country sides in far off places. The crime, corruption and violence is a direct result of prohibition and the artificial prices it produces. If you like those things, then continue your drug war, and that is what you will continue to get.

Toker