Bush Impeachment News

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

One other interesting thing, look at the states where Bush won and the states where Kerry won. Then look at which states are known for their educations of higher learning, high tech industries, finance industries, etc. In other words the places with high percentages of intelligent people. Guess who voted for who?

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To me, it's not about the intelligence of so-called "red state voters," but more about their mere numbers.

This is off topic, I know, but look at the Senate. Republicans hold a 55 to 44 edge, with one independent. But those 44 Democratic senators represent more people than do the 55 Republicans.

That can be the nature of the Senate, so I'm not proposing an overhaul of any kind. But I really wish that Frist and the GOP leadership would keep that in mind when they propose their agenda, at least in the Senate. They are a majority by seats only.

not everyone in those democrat states is a democrat.the republicans were the ones picking up votes in those states.

there are FAR MORE republicans in america than democrats.its all about getting them out to vote.if you do that ,you win.obviously.

if i were the dems i would stop fretting with the far left of the party,they dont help.the dems need the middle of the road voter and they lost that in the last election.the dems also must have the minorities wich they are slowly losing wether you choose to admit it or not.at this point in history,our P.R. and marketing is far more productive than the dems. I dont disagree with all the dems positions,but they shoot themselves in the foot with howard dean who keeps the far left loyal,while removing the middle of the road voter from the dem control.

is dean working for Rove?seems so.

as much as people might hate Rove,the guy is hardcore and tough to beat.good luck.i would be nervous going against him.he eats peoples lives for breakfast.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

not everyone in those democrat states is a democrat.the republicans were the ones picking up votes in those states.

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How? If they picked up votes, wouldn't they have won the seats, instead of losing? Democratic senators represent more people than do Republicans. You can't get around that.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

there are FAR MORE republicans in america than democrats.its all about getting them out to vote.if you do that ,you win.obviously.

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I'd like to see statistical evidence of that. Every poll or article I read on the subject, and I'm well-read on this, says that most people identify themselves as leaning Democratic when it comes to domestic policy and Republican when it comes to foreign policy (though, that is shifting). It's not so cut and dry as there are more of this party or more of the other.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

if i were the dems i would stop fretting with the far left of the party,they dont help.the dems need the middle of the road voter and they lost that in the last election.the dems also must have the minorities wich they are slowly losing wether you choose to admit it or not.at this point in history,our P.R. and marketing is far more productive than the dems. I dont disagree with all the dems positions,but they shoot themselves in the foot with howard dean who keeps the far left loyal,while removing the middle of the road voter from the dem control.

is dean working for Rove?seems so.

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I used to feel that Dean was bad for Democrats for that very same point. But then I realized that it was Dean who energized the Democratic party by playing to the most liberal members. And that Kerry lost that momentum by moving to the center.

The reason why Republicans are winning is because they cater to the far right. The most extreme part of any group's base is where the activism comes from. The far left is where Democratic activism comes from and Dean is doing the right thing, regardless of what you hear or read in the media.

Karl Rove dodged a bullet when the media fixated on Dean's Iowa concession speech in 2004.

dean sure isnt helping the party now.the guy cant even go in public without pissing on the washington dems.

dean was a loser pick in '04,just like hillary in '08.

so the dems lose '04 because they are to far left,they hire the farthest lefty to head the whole party.sounds good to me.

if i were you,i would pray for a low turnout in '08. obviously a high turnout does not work in your favor.i'd be pretty nervous if i were you.unless you have been living in a box,i know you can see that America hasnt made any steps to the left.

I fully agree with amsterdam on the hilary issue. Our world just isnt ready for a female president of the united states. everybody will be glossing so much over the historical significance and celebrity of it all that noone will remember about the fucked up shit going on now. HELLO, ANYONE REMEMBER NORTH KOREA?!?! the same n.korea that demanded the US to declare them a nuclear power in order to regain peace talks? i dont think the president is in the right state of mind to swallow his pride.

Now imagine hilary in this situation, would she be the first female president to blow north koreans the fuck up or will she make a testament to time of being the first female president to do as little fighting as possible? the international court would eat her alive and i can almost certainly see more bills getting drafted to grant the cia and fbi more powers in terms of military action.

im in to good a mood to argue about who will run and who will win cause my vacation starts tom,but i will say that my team has a few tricks up their sleeve and arent to worried about '08.

i think it has more to do with the fact that more people hate hillary than like her.

if you thought the swift boat guys were mean,JUST WAIT till hillary runs.ouch.

fenzi your are one misguided fuck you think gods gunna save you when you die hahahahahahahaha wake up and smell the coffee you as insinifficant and a the fly you squash on your wall