Girlfriend might be pregnant!
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Originally Posted by PurplePotatoes
Well, personally I'm pro-life. I don't believe in killing babies... and I don't specifically believe that babies are actually alive at that state when they're aborted. But I think if it's okay to do that, it's okay to kill a baby that isn't able to run away or say "no" yet. Because at that state... they really aren't anything but leeches, and aren't mature enough to really have memories, or have a concious existance. They sure as hell have emotions and feelings, but it's as big of a deal as a fetus. It sounds really fucked up, but just remember I'm PRO LIFE, and don't believe in abortion period. If you're lucky enough to have sex (because we all know it's great), then you should be able to take the responsibility of having a kid. IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THAT WAY. You have sex, you have a kid. It's simple as adding two plus two. There should be no reason to worry about a pregnancy, if you have to drop out of school to support the kid, then do so! Put your life on hold so you can support the kid and care for him or her. Kids aren't supposed to be little monsters who ruin your life, you don't think cave women just killed their babies when they were tired of having it?
I'm also against divorce, unless you plan on staying single or getting remarried to that person. It's ridiculous how so many people are getting divorced... there was a time when these practices weren't acceptable, and now it's perfectly normal... what happened?!
ok i'm not here to start an argument or "debate" i just gotta say it (as a matter of fact i probably won't even be back to this thread) but does that mean it's ok to kill a mentally-incompetent person just because they can't run away or say no?
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Wow, thanks for the GREAT advice. You guys are a big fucking help.
Well guess what, I don't share your views on abortion and think it's perfectly acceptable. Does that mean i'm going to hell? No, because I don't believe in that shit either. We can't have a child now, we are too young and have too much planned. Neither of us WANT one, therefore we'd be raising an unwanted child that was never intended.
If I wanted your dumb opinions on the subject, I would have asked for them. I asked you not to pass judgment as your not in the same situation (I doubt you've ever been, it's easy to point fingers like your a fucking saint) but oh well, you did. Why not fuck off to the spiritual form if you need to vent some of that pro-life frustration. All i'm asking for is a little help under pressure. I'd never want my girlfriend to go through with something like this but we've both agreed it's the best option.
If it's positive, i'm just really fucking unlucky because the only unprotected sex we had was 4-5 in-outs without a condom. I was always the one to say 'stop' in case this happened. If it IS positive, it's early enough to be a mass of chemicals, NOT a baby. We're thinking about the facts, not the god-damn morals, life is too short.
I'm in a position where i'd rather not hear some small-minded individuals bullshit ramblings on something that really isn't relevant to my situation. We've already agreed on what we need to do, don't have a hissy fit because I don't float your boat.
All i'm asking for is advice. Nothing more.
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
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Originally Posted by Button Basher
Wow, thanks for the GREAT advice. You guys are a big f*cking help.
Well guess what, I don't share your views on abortion and think it's perfectly acceptable. Does that mean i'm going to hell? No, because I don't believe in that sh*t either. We can't have a child now, we are too young and have too much planned. Neither of us WANT one, therefore we'd be raising an unwanted child that was never intended.
If I wanted your dumb opinions on the subject, I would have asked for them. I asked you not to pass judgment as your not in the same situation (I doubt you've ever been, it's easy to point fingers like your a f*cking saint) but oh well, you did. Why not f*ck off to the spiritual form if you need to vent some of that pro-life frustration. All i'm asking for is a little help under pressure. I'd never want my girlfriend to go through with something like this but we've both agreed it's the best option.
If it's positive, i'm just really f*cking unlucky because the only unprotected sex we had was 4-5 in-outs without a condom. I was always the one to say 'stop' in case this happened. If it IS positive, it's early enough to be a mass of chemicals, NOT a baby. We're thinking about the facts, not the xxx-xxxx morals, life is too short.
I'm in a position where i'd rather not hear some small-minded individuals bullshit ramblings on something that really isn't relevant to my situation. We've already agreed on what we need to do, don't have a hissy fit because I don't float your boat.
All i'm asking for is advice. Nothing more.
Howdy BB,
My advice,is to think about the consequences of having sex first,before gittin yerself into this kind of situation.
I hope that girlfriend realizes,that if she chooses to murder her child,then she can no longer be considered pro-life. My wife,had 2 abortions,before I met her and she still regrets terribly,doin so..do you really want your girlfriend to have a life-time of guilt and shame ? Also,abortions are not as nearly safe as you might think..there's evidence to show that long-term health problems could result and in the short-term,she could either hemmoragh to death or be unable to concieve again.
The greatest risk to you,is the harm that you're doing to your soul,your girlfriend has even more to lose and risk. Have you,in your small-mindness and narcism,considered the risks that your girlfriend faces ? She will carry the burden of her choice,for a life-time..will you stand beside her..or cut your losses and run away ?
Have a good one...
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Good luck, BB, I hope she isn't pregnant. Sometimes rough sex can result in bleeding, maybe you two just got a little too freaky. Anyway, this is not the politics forum, so you two do what you have to do if she is pregnant. Like I said yesterday, I think you are tripping for no reason, wait until the test results come back.
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Thanks maryjane. Your alright :) ! I did a little research and irregular bleeding can be the result of hormonal changes such as increased stress. Both of us are in exams at the moment so I hope that's the reason.
Torog: Thanks for the constructive post. I won't ask you to see it from my point of view as your ultimately the intelligent one here (for once, jk :p ). I understand everything you say but like I said, we really can't have a child. Even if we wanted to we live too far away from eachother and couldn't possibly support one. Adoption isn't an option as my gf's mum is wholly against that, more so then termination.
:( My biggest fear is that I can't be around to support my gf should the worst happen. Like I said, we both have exams for another two weeks and it is really costly for me to go visit her (she has a train pass). I'm trying not to worry too much as her test is tomorrow and it's probably alright but should she have to have a termination, I don't think I could forgive myself. Try not to think too harsh of me, i'm not trying to escape responsibility and i'd never run away from my problems but the fact is it's our only option.
She says she'll love me whatever happens. I don't think I deserve her. I just hope i'm being paranoid. :(
Thanks for the help to everyone who offered some. I'll let you know what happens.
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Hello BB! Can you go with her if she is pregnant and she needs to terminate the pregnancy? I would do everything in your power to be able to stand by her side, if you really care for her. Having an abortion, for some women, can be an emotional experience. Make sure you let her know everything will be fine and tell her over and over why it is the right thing to do, because she may know why she's doing this, but her heart may feel tremendous guilt over this, if she is pro-life, like you said.
I wish you and your girlfriend lots of luck and everything will work out fine. ;)
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
omg i really wish Torog would stop going around thinking HE is god and passing judgment on people....that shit is quite irritating.....Torog is a hypocritical christian, his faith teaches him not to judge but he does in just about every post....and BB i wasn't passin judgement on you, i understand how at certain points you just cannot have one. we shouldn't even be rasing ours. but we didn't have money for an abortion so we have to. oh well someday i'll look back on it all and appreciate it, atleast i hope.
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Thanks psycho, sorry to flip out. I hope you understand.
To cheerycherry: I'm trying to be as supportive as possible. The advice from you guys (particularly Torog's to be honest) has made me think about whether my girlfriend is keeping her feelings on the subject from me. She said she was pro-life (in her words "i'm 100% pro-life") but when she asked me honestly what I thought I replied "we can't have a child." She understands where I am coming from but I think she may be stifling her feelings so as not to put pressure on me. My god this is making me feel bad. To add additional pressure, we are keeping it from our parents. We're both adults and simply don't want our folks to worry but should she need a termination there's no way I would be able to go with her :( . She has great friends who have been in similar situations and are helping her greatly. I assured her a million and one times everything would work out fine and we need to stay positive (no pun intended) but it's so much harder for her, I don't know if I really understand that yet. I feel like i'm just a useless, irresponsible bf :( but there's so little I can do right now.
Anyway, we already agreed. If the tests are positive, i'll have to make sure I know exactly how she feels. Chances are i'll hate myself for a very long time.
Tsk, what a lesson learned :rolleyes: . This is NOT what a stoner needs!
Thanks again.
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Bleeding doesnt mean pregnant. chill out. Sometimes it just happens, maybe you were getting too busy under that duvet. its scary, but i dont think youll be doing "warming up" anymore, nothing pulls your head out like a good old fashioned pregnancy scare....It happens to us all...
Girlfriend might be pregnant!
Ain't that the truth. :D
Feeling a lot better. Thanks guys, i'd send you all a blunt if I could. :)