Hundreds Attend Missouri Confederate Ceremony

great post bhallg. i didnt even know about the flag flying after integration. Personally, I think we all take our freedoms for granted. Just because the Constitution states that we can run around and say and worship and demonstrate as we please doesnt give us the right to shove it down the throats of others. That in turn breeds a bigger rally to supress it based on the rights of you being able to protest what you want as well. I don't care if redneck 34 IQ assholes fly their flags all over the place and hold demonstrations talking about "them there nappy headed big nose breathin' black sonsabitches." i've heard enough of that shit to last a lifetime. But when you use state property or tax payer's money to sponsor that ignorance then you've got me all over your ass like Bush in a cocaine field.

My Indian Brothers are still living on reservations. We dont bitch as much as NAACP.

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it would be black people for white people.

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WHat kinda shit is that?, Heres a lil tid bit for u UR OWN PEOPLE INSLAVED UR OWN PEOPLE FOR Generations Before the white people come along.slavery is long gone live in the future dont Hate us for the past, weve tried 2 make up for it but all the NAACP does is bitch and want more.

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I'd be willing to bet that that's the case for every Confederate flag being flown today.

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Im far from racist Dont generalize everyone, iv had 4 Black girlfriends and iv still flown my flag NOT EVERY FLAG THAT IS FLOWN IS MEANT TO BE RACIST.....

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On another note, I don't get this fascination the South has with the Confederacy, for any reason. When are Southerners going to let the Civil War go? It was 140 years ago. The Confederacy failed. I'm a Southerner, born and raised, and I got over it a long-ass time ago. In fact, I don't think it was ever an issue with me

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When is the Black community gona let it go? Your Pretty damn free now and the NAACP still wants more.


But no matter how much i argue this point its not gona go anywehre it never has=(

God bless.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Y'all,

This is what gits my dander up:

"Leaders of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People said they had no problem with the memorial service, just with Blunt's decision to fly the Confederate flag."

"We recognize citizens have a right to honor their ancestors and heroes," said Harold Crumpton, president of the St. Louis branch of the NAACP. "But they don't have the right to use state funds and property to pass on the venom of their symbols of hatred."

Well...how gracious of the NAACP,to allow us to honor our fallen Confederate soldiers..they seem to forget,that many a black man,volunteered to serve in the Confederate army,in the fight for State's rights and self-determination. Many 'slaves' were freed by Southerners,so that they could join the fight against the North.

The NAACP,has declared on it's own,that the Confederate flag is a symbol of hatred..I think that there's more hatred and racism coming from the NAACP,than from the families of Confederate soldiers.

Just to give y'all a clue,about how we feel about the Confederate flag in my part of the woods,there's a feller that lives next door to our county jail,which is downtown,in the county seat and across from the courthouse,that flys a Confederate flag,24/7,365. Ain't no sap-sucking liberals or hate-filled NAACP'er's,coming around to demand that he stop flying it..nor have the cops and sherrifs or judges. There's plenty of Confederate flags being flown in this county,right out in the front yards of folks,proudly displayed,right next to the American flag and Texas flag.

The NAACP,can kiss my hairy,pimpled,ass !

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Just keep focuseing on such a insignificant moment in time Torg.

Thats just what they want you to do, keep your fronts on something as idiotic as who can wave a flag and who cant.

Think its bad now?... you aint seen nothin yet. Watch the history channel, watch shows about how Hitler took over Germany.

Its really very scary to see the blinding similairities between what is going on now and what happen in germany.

Hitler made a big mistake after invadeing Poland, instead of takeing over Poland and getting the support of the citizens before he moved on, he simply moved on to Russia.

Had he done what the US is doing now, and thats move into an area, set up programs to help the people, and install a form of goverment that is a mirror of there own. (all done under the umbrella of good intentions) And then occupy the region long enough to teach the children of this new way. After time the people know nothing of what it used to be, because all teaching of that will be considered terrorist acts.
Set up new schools for the children and then educate the teachers in "our" vision.

Then after you have the support of the masses in your newly acuired country, you can then refill the ranks and move to the next country on the list.

History is well documented and when you have documentation from both sides of a conflict the truth can be worked out. But if its one system that is allowed to take over. no truth can be found because the only side of the story we will ever know is that of the victor. And as history is proveing now, the Victor will not be held accountable for lies.


One huge flaw I see in this is the American people are wakeing up. To control them for the duration it will need to be done with force. And with the military falling short of its recruiting goals by 48% last time around. I dont think our Military and police can handle 2 fronts. One at home and one abroad is just to many and we would be forced to withdraw from Iraq should we fall into civil war.

But ya never know, maybe thats the plan. While you raise the next breed in Iraq, keeping your show of force there in the form of 14 bases. Turn your attention to your own people and once they are comformed. your new crop has grown in Iraq and then they can move on to the next country on the list.

Nothing to do with flag waveing, but thats my point.

Peace.

"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
--Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels


Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, an eye witness account by a prisoner of Russia's gulags:
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at handâ?¦The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

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Originally Posted by RidingHigh

WHat kinda shit is that?, Heres a lil tid bit for u UR OWN PEOPLE INSLAVED UR OWN PEOPLE FOR Generations Before the white people come along.slavery is long gone live in the future dont Hate us for the past, weve tried 2 make up for it but all the NAACP does is bitch and want more.

Im far from racist Dont generalize everyone, iv had 4 Black girlfriends and iv still flown my flag NOT EVERY FLAG THAT IS FLOWN IS MEANT TO BE RACIST.....

When is the Black community gona let it go? Your Pretty damn free now and the NAACP still wants more.


But no matter how much i argue this point its not gona go anywehre it never has=(

God bless.

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Are you out of your mind too?

First off, don't assume you know anything about me with that "you people" shit. I'm not black. It doesn't take a black man to realize that black people have been shat on for years. Only a small amount of intelligence is required. Also, when I hear anyone say "you people" when referring to another ethnic group, it almost immediately makes me think you're not coming from a place of any kind of cultural harmony.

Second, why is it a generalization to say that those who fly the Confederate flag are racist? We fly the flags of those who we agree with. And was not one of the major tenents of the Confederacy the right for white people to own black people, that Negroes were nothing more than property? Yes, they were about more than slavery and yes the Civil War was about more than slavery. But sometimes, a bad apple ruins the bunch. You won't find me flying a Nazi flag because Germany had free health care in the '30s.

I think the NAACP will "let it go" when black people play on a level playing field. Maybe they'll let it go when American prisons aren't predominantly filled with minorities, when pay for blacks reaches that of whites, when urban education is given the same funding as suburban education. They'll let it go when drug laws, hell all laws, don't have a racist tilt to them. Maybe they'll let it go when the life expectancy of a black man reaches that of a white man, or at least when black men can collect their Social Security at a younger age. Perhaps they'll let it go when black people aren't harrassed in voting lines, or mislead about where to vote.

The NAACP is doing its job because no one else will. You're ignorant if you think racism is dead.

And don't tell me "we've tried to make up for it." You ain't done shit. Have you given a black man your pay as reparation for your ancestors' wretched abuse of his ancestors? I don't think so.

And also don't tell me that blacks enslaved each other long before the white man came along. While it's true that African Muslims (Arabs) enslaved other Africans (blacks) long before the white man, black Africans never enslaved each other. I don't understand why this myth has legs, but blame it on a collective guilty conscience.

You're just wrong. And that's not even the saddest part. This is:

"You're pretty damn free now"

So you're saying close to free is good enough?

hey...cool....bhallg2k is black too...neat

oh....lol. i read the second sentence and apparently he isnt. i should smoke some more to calm down...

I'm Bill Clinton black. :)