Can someone help me figure out what this is???

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Originally Posted by krazyeye420

No I didn't let the tap sit for a day or 2 and just got ahead of myself.... I only use the nutes every other watering. I did not flush before flowering didn't really know I needed to. I do not have a ppm reader. I will buy 1 if need be. I figured i would just start again with distilled water. What do you think?

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Tap water is specific to each water districts. Some water companies have to add more or less of whatever they add depending on the specific needs of the water in that area. What might work for someone else might not work for you. In your case, your plant seems to be growing ok with the tap. If you can smell the chlorine or even taste it, you need to let it sit out for best results. Chlorine in the water can kill any beneficial bacteria in your soil.

Personally, I flush just before flowering, at week 5 of flower and then a final flush 10-14 days before harvesting. I do this to prevent salt buildup in the soil. If you feed to often and don't flush regularly, you end up with what appears to be the situation you are in now, nute lockout.

ppm meters are good to have so you can monitor just how strong of a concoction you are giving them. And for the most part, the feeding chart you are following is just a generalized chart. They usually are not specific to this type of plant species. With time and experience, you will learn what they need and when.

You can start giving distiller water. If you don't have a way of correcting the waters Ph before adding to the soil, I suggest you get yourself what you need to do so. Also, if you are going to use water that has been filtered, you are going to need some Cal-Mag.

To correct what is going on now is very simple, flush your soil!!! Get yourself 10-15gal of water and put it in your soil to "flush" out the buildup of nutes. I'd do it again after it dries from the first flush just to be sure. I use tap water for flushing only and I let it sit out before adding. 10-15gal of filtered water for flushing kinda seems like a waste to me, but that's just me......

Hope this helps you......

CanGroIt::::::

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Originally Posted by CanGroIt

Chlorine in the water can kill any beneficial bacteria in your soil.This rings true, but my garden says otherwise.

If you feed to often and don't flush regularly, you end up with what appears to be the situation you are in now, nute lockout. Yep that is the cause.

Also, if you are going to use water that has been filtered, you are going to need some Cal-Mag. Not filtered, only RO or distilled. Filtering does not remove micronutes




CanGroIt::::::

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So, I just wanted to correct a couple little things.

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Originally Posted by WashougalWonder

So, I just wanted to correct a couple little things.

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You actually only corrected one thing, that filtered water still carries micro nutes. I apologize for using the wrong term in that sentence. We can all sleep better at night now that we know this. Thank you Wash......

And as for your garden, they would probably thank you if you were to add the micro nutes to RO water instead of just giving them what comes with the tap......but to each his own......

Happy Growing!!

CanGroIt::::::

Okay I went and bought some RO water. Flushed plants and they are already looking better! Thank you guys for helping me! One more thing... you say "micro nutes" Please explain what that is because I thought The FFOF along with the fox farms trio was plenty enough? So I may need some of this cal/mag and micro nutes???? And are my ph levels suposed to be 6.3-7? Thats what I have been going by.

i got yellow leaves ,,lol i heard about brown spots maybe over watering ,,12 /12 is that ur light cycle ?? and how big is ur bucket ,,...and can u feel heat from the lights you got ??

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Originally Posted by krazyeye420

you say "micro nutes" Please explain what that is because I thought The FFOF along with the fox farms trio was plenty enough? So I may need some of this cal/mag and micro nutes????

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First, glad to hear they are looking better....

Nutes = N-P-K = (N) Nitrogen - (P2O5) Phosphate - (K2O) Potassium - These are usually found in three part nutrient mixes. Look at the chemical compound formulas on the labels of your nutes to find out the levels in each bottle.

Micro Nutes - Examples would be - (Ca) Calcium, (Mg) Magnesium, (Fe) Iron, (Mn) Manganese, (Zn) Zinc, just to name a few. Check your labels, as long as you have these nutes and micro nutes, you should be fine. And your soil ph is perfect anywhere between 6.3-6.8....

Hope this helps....

CanGroIt::::::

Thanks again cangrowit I def. think it was the tap water. :pimp:Attachment 274455

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Originally Posted by krazyeye420

Thanks again cangrowit I def. think it was the tap water.....

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:thumbsup: That's what we are here for, to help each other out.....


CanGroIt::::::

If you must use RO, you will need to use molasses or Cal/Mag every watering. It will also adjust your pH down. The least expensive is the molasses, I use 1 tsp in 5 gallons to recover RO deficiencies. FF OF does not have enough. Overdose with cal/mag looks like your above picture too. :thumbsup:

Looks to me like an overdose was the culprit, not the water.
Have you checked for the Fox Farms Weekly Feeding Schedule for soil, or are you trying to use the bottle directions? Quite a a few companies that list bottle directions assume it's used as a stand-alone nutrient. This can and will adversely affect your ladies. No need for the soluables they list on the feeding schedule, until you are experienced enough to recognize the issues that their use will bring. The 'Trio' works pretty darned good if you follow directions. With the Trio, mid-way through flowering you'll want to add the molasses or CalMag Plus at standard dilution, while lowering or discontinuing the Big Bloom.

In case you haven't seen it, check here: http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/Fox...l-Schedule.pdf

Sorry...I'm not a believer that you need to worry about TDS ppm's if you're in soil. How many ppm's exist in a gallon of potting soil? And since you are trying to lower the ppm's of water, shouldn't you guy's be just as worried about the TDS ppm's of the soil you're in...? From my years of experience in the online cannabis community, this all started with a concept for watering/feeding hydro plants, and has 'morphed' into a need for soil growing, too. But...I'm just not buyin' it for soil grows.

Feel free to show data and prove me wrong though. :thumbsup: