HB 1250: Edible Cannabis Medicines to Be Outlawed in Colorado

sorry this is OT, but ReleafCenter and DenverRelief are 2 different centers or are you 2 different people at releaf center?

(I have no problem w/either, just confused)

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Originally Posted by copobo

audio is here, it just began
Old Supreme Court Chamber

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Thank you. That was educational. Shows these folks are playing sliegh of hand...

Key words they used..

Clone: Seems like a plant was the issue right? Wrong... CLONING IS SECRET SQUIRREL LINGO FOR DOUBLE AGENTS, TIS WHY HE CHUCKLED ..LOCAL/DEA UNDER FEDREAL DTF CONTRACT. NOTICE THE RESPONSE.. I NOW SEE THE PROBLEMS HERE. i.e. all state csa statutes are clones of federal csa.;)


He next then got into bringing back the focus too...

What constitutes a plant is clear:

"Plant" means any marijuana plant in any stage of growth.



See U.S.S.G. § 2D1.1, comment. (n.17) (defining "plant" as "an organism having leaves and a readily observable root formation (e.g., a marihuana cutting having roots, a rootball, or root hairs is a marihuana plant)") (emphasis added); see also Foree, 43 F.3d at 1581 (holding that "cuttings and seedlings are not marihuana plants unless there is some readily observable evidence of root formation") (quotations omitted).

Neither the statute nor the current Sentencing Guidelines define the term "marihuana plant." But although the question is one of first impression in this circuit, every other court that has considered the issue has concluded that, for sentencing purposes, root formation is the sine qua non of a marijuana "plant." See United States v. Delaporte, 42 F.3d 1118, 1994 WL 706105 at * 2- * 3 (7th Cir. 1994); Marijuana plants have three characteristic structures, readily apparent to the unaided layperson's eye: roots, stems, and leaves. Until a cutting develops roots of its own, it is not a plant itself but a mere piece of some other plant. We therefore adopt the rule that cuttings are not "plants" unless there is "readily observable evidence of root formation." Burke, 999 F.2d at 601; Edge, 989 F.2d at 879. We think that requiring readily observable evidence of root formation is a common-sense approach that will prevent the costly and confusing "battle of botanical experts which occurred in this case." Appellee's Brief at 13.; United States v. Burke, 999 F.2d 596, 601 (1st Cir.1993) ("at the first sign of roots, a plant exists for sentencing purposes"); United States v. Edge, 989 F.2d 871, 876-79 (6th Cir.1993) (plant exists if there is "some readily observable evidence of root formation"); United States v. Curtis, 965 F.2d 610, 616 (8th Cir.1992); United States v. Bechtol, 939 F.2d 603, 604-05 (8th Cir.1991); United States v. Eves, 932 F.2d 856, 858-60 (10th Cir.), cert. denied, 502 U.S. 884, 112 S. Ct. 236, 116 L. Ed. 2d 192 (1991); [**26] United States v. Carlisle, 907 F.2d 94, 96 (9th Cir.1990) (per curiam); United States v. Angell, 794 F. Supp. 874, 875 (D.Minn.1992), sentence vacated on other grounds, 11 F.3d 806 (8th Cir.1993), cert. denied, U.S. , 114 S. Ct. 2747, 129 L. Ed. 2d 865 (1994); United States v. Fitol, 733 F. Supp. 1312, 1314-16 (D.Minn.1990) ("To distinguish two plants from one plant cut into two pieces, there must be some evidence of individual growth after the severance, such as the growing of roots from a cutting.") 12

U.S. V. Robinson, 35 F.3d 442;, (9th cir. 1994)
Marijuana plants have three characteristic structures, readily apparent to the unaided layperson's eye: roots, stems, and leaves. Until a cutting develops roots of its own, it is not a plant itself but a mere piece of some other plant. We therefore adopt the rule that cuttings are not "plants" unless there is "readily observable evidence of root formation." Burke, 999 F.2d at 601; Edge, 989 F.2d at 879. We think that requiring readily observable evidence of root formation is a common-sense approach that will prevent the costly and confusing "battle of botanical experts which occurred in this case." Appellee's Brief at 13.

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n.
An essential element or condition: "The perfect cake is the sine qua non of the carefully planned modern wedding" (J.M. Hilary).
[Late Latin sine qu (caus) nn, without which (cause) not : Latin sine, without + Latin qu : ablative of qu, which, what, who + Latin nn, not.]

Here is the DTF of your state.. I will find the contracts and show you exactly on point what they are doing with the clone issue.. wink wink nod nod..

COLORADO D.T.F.

Boulder County Drug Task Force
P.O. Box 20386
Boulder, CO 80308
Phone Number
303-441-1690
Fax Number
303-247-1449
Email
Unknown

Includes Boulder Police Department, Boulder County Sherfif's Office, University of Colorado Police Dept, Louisville Police Department, Lafayette Police Department and Erie Police Department




Larimer County Drug Task Force

P.O. Box 945
Loveland, CO 8053
Phone Number
970-416-2560
Fax Number
970-416-2563
Email
Unknown



Includes Colorado Air National Guard, Colorado State Univeristy Police Department, Fort Collins Police Services, Larimer County Sheriff's Office, Loveland Police Department and Estes Park Police Department



North Metro Task Force

Phone Number
303-298-9151
Fax Number
Unknown
Email
Unknown



West Metro Drug Task Force

Phone Number
303-424-4779
Fax Number
Unknown
Email
[email protected]



Includes Arvada Police Department, D.E.A., Golden Police Department, Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Lakewood Police Department and Wheat Ridge Police Dept.

South Metro Drug Task Force

P.O. Box 549
Littleton, CO 80160
Phone Number
720-748-2995
Fax Number
720-748-2945
Email
[email protected]



Includes Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office, Bow Mar Police Department, Castle Rock Police Department, Cherry Hills Police Department, Columbine Valley Police Department, Douglas County Sheriff's Office, Elizabeth Police Department, Glendale Police Department, Greenwood Village Police Department, Littleton Police Department, Lone Tree Police Department, Parker Police Department and Sheridan Police Department.

Air national guard ? DEA? HUH?

Are your eyes decieving you? NO THEY ARE NOT !!!

Are you are being duped...we all are.

NORTHERN COLORADO DRUG TASK FORCE
The Northern Colorado Drug Task Force (NCDTF) is made up of sixteen sworn and non-sworn members dedicated to identifying, addressing and impacting drug crimes and criminals in Larimer County. The Task Force is comprised of representatives from the following agencies:
Colorado Air National Guard: 1
Colorado State University Police Department: 1
Fort Collins Police Services: 9
Loveland Police Department: 5

Area of Coverage:
The NCDTF investigates drug cases in Larimer County, Colorado, and also assists surrounding counties and different agencies in the WAR AGAINST DRUGS. The Interstate 25 corridor provides drug traffickers with easy access in Larimer County. In addition, they provide technical assistance to other Criminal Investigation Divisions

http://www.peerassistanceservices.or...ct%20Sheet.pdf

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Originally Posted by Denvertoad

The question would be at least to me; Who's safety has been impaired or is in need of preservation.

@Relief: I'd love to be there, but with this short a notice, and having to work, it's impossible. Loath the way I'm treated by our representatives. This really pisses me off. Excellent talking points BTW.

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Your point applies with just as much force in the context of cannabis in general; who's safety is threatened and how, sufficiently to justify any regulation.

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Originally Posted by DenverRelief

We'll be there today. Please participate if you can.

Everybody, get your talking points together.

It's important that we don't appear reactionary to this blatant attack, but rather keep our talking points cogent and collected.

Nothing is worse for our cause than appearing to be anything other than professional.

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Professional???:eek:.you mean like these fucking idiots?
Across street from pro-pot rally, House rolls out medical-marijuana rules - The Denver Post
yeah....the ones who stood out in public in direct violation of Amendment 20 while the people in the building behind them used them as proof positive that MMJ needs to be regulated out of existence because the people who are asking for their constititional rights to be protected don't even respect the law that they think they were supporting. I'll wager there were none more satisfied that day watching this than those who were determined to overturn AM 20 by whatever means....and 1284 was a damn good start.

I think this case explains what's going on..

http://boards.cannabis.com/colorado-...olorado-2.html post #41 ;)

Once one understands this case and the courts opinion... you will see why this is happening.

Anything outside the care-giver model is ILLEGAL. Any cannabis infused food, is illegal under state law... there is absolutely no coverage for it being legal in legislation..

An initiative process should be used for this coverage.. NOW. a SUIT WILL NOT WORK.. As no legislation exists for an remedy at law.. because it is ILLEGAL UNDER STATE LAW.:(:(:(

Also as a side note, see state v. fry, the last Wa. Supreme court ruling that cannabis is still illegal even though a patient has complied with the act... as cannabis is still illegal under the UCSA of Wa, NO MEDICAL USE OR VALUE... i.e. a schedule 1 drug..not a schedule II prescription...has medical use/value.

Colorado edible marijuana bill not a brownie killer | Colorado Independent

The sky didn't fall after all.

I think that Rep. Cindy Acree does have a somewhat valid point in wanting edibles not look so appealing to children and to look more 'medical'.

If the extracts used in edibles could be just as effective when placed into capsules or molded into tasteless nondescript tablets, etc - I'm all for it.

I'm also biased because I don't like candy, desserts or sodas and think the edibles industry has gotten a little silly.

Anyone care for an mmj chocolate truffle infused with macadamia nuts, star anise and bacon? Anyone? :D

unless patients owners and citizens unite and fight this crap, and in my opinion talking has done nothing, it's time for civil disobedience! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::mad: