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move the lights approx how far? I have them at 2 and a half feet maybe, I'll have to readjust the light to get farther away.
They've been in more than two weeks, with no rooting on the ones that I scrapped; should we re-apply the rooting gel? Or will putting them in the proper situation just get things moving?
Neem oil, got it
I put a single sheet of paper towel on top of the dome, will this be enough diffusion? It seems pretty shady in there now...
You have lots of issues. Was the mother plant in the veg stage or flower stage. If flower stage it could take up to 5 weeks for them to root properly.
I have successfully taken clones from flowering plants...but on the cloning machine is take 4 weeks or more.
Now if they were taken from a vegging plant....and you have them in a tray with a humidity dome make sure the rock wool is sitting on top of something...some people use a towl....some use peralite....just make sure they are not sitting in water.
Now Have your done clones before????
It not real difficult....but you must follow some steps....did you use a clean scoupal or very sharp knife? when you dipped them in the jell....how long did they stay in the jell? I usually let them sit in the jell for 5 minutes or untill I have about 8 of them ready to put on the cloning machine....Who took the cuttings?....how did they travel from your buddies house to your house...did you put them in water....because they will dry out very fast....
I guess I need more information.
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Move it down to 8". that's where I kept mine under my 46 to root them after having them about 12" for a week. :twocents:
The mother was in veg, I'm pretty certain. As for transport, homie lived next door (now evicted), so we just took the dome over in a black bag. We used scissors to get them, the gel was deposited in the hole of the rapidrooter cube, and the cuttings were stuck in. The gel was visible for a week.
They were in one of those fit-in cube/soil holders, but since I cleaned the whole thing out I just put them in the tray... yr saying I should make a perlite layer on the bottom and put the cubes on top of that? Or a towel at the bottom? and soak this in water?
I'm a little confused.
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that's where I kept mine under my 46 to root them after having them about 12" for a week
I also have no idea what this means!
alright I have 2 suggestions as I'm fairly new to cloning.
1. Apply the gel directly to the stem of the clone, do not just put it in the hole of the rapid rooters.
2. I suggest making a aeroponic cloner. I just built 1 for about $45. I use 5mL of Clonex per gal of water. I kept the cloner under my 400w MH at about 18-24 inches. I had 100% rate of rooting although it took me about 2 1/2 weeks to get them to root.
These are just suggestions. MJ seems pretty easy to get to root, just follow the instructions on whatever cloning gel/solution you use. I believe most of your trouble probably comes from not directly applying your gel to the plants. I am a true believer in the homemade aero cloners that are out there (they worked for me):thumbsup::thumbsup:
Ohhhhhhh,..... I've tried that,... don't work well. I lost 75% of that batch :( And the ones that survived were stunted for about a month.Quote:
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All I can say is Good Luck. For the most part it sounds like you have a good chance at it, but there's more than one fatal flaw.
your loss is going to 50 to 75%.....here is what I would do.....
Keep those going and Start.....some new ones......my experience with clones is just keep starting new ones....you will have some die...some will be stunted...and some will lag....but you will also have some super keepers...and those are the ones you want to put all that work into in Veg and then into flower..........I know I am not alone when I say this........you want to work with the strongest.....healthy.....clones you can get....you have to cull the others.
Also....when you get cuttings or clones from someone....make yourself a dip with neam or Azol and water solution....and dip them while you are cloning.
That is how I start......even though you may think there are no...mites or mold.....just to be safe I set them(dunk) in this solution....then co the cutting to proper size and or node region with a clean scoupal...then set in the jell until I have 8 or 10 ready to set.
since you are using a dome and rock wool you do have to mist them once to twice a day....I am using a home made cloning machine...and that step is not needed.
Good Luck
your cube should be moist all the time otherwise roots wont move through the cube. temperatures that are cooler will slow rooting time as will too much heat. after week 1 you should have a little nute/water at the bottom of the dome so when roots start looking for feed there is something to eat. 20 w of light is plenty so cover with opaque plastic or set them away from direct light, direct light induces photosynthesis which at this point is not what you want. you want to induce root growth by denying photosynthesis thus less light. the issues you speak of are related to insufficient rooting time which created mold, mildew and im guessing brown mushy leaves. even clones need air...open up the chamber twice a day for a few minutes then foiliar feed with a light balanced nute solution. wet the cubes and plant every time not too much though. moisture should build up over time and create a feeding pool below for your soon to be roots. make sure your chamber is free of easy air flow as this will dry things out. unless your going to sit there 24/7 and spray them, an amicable cause:thumbsup: the amoire is fine but it may be creating a humidity issue and/or heat issue. do you leave doors open except with certain company? wait no more than three weeks for roots after that its done. 10 days is ideal.Quote:
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just remember once clones are tranplsnted they may still need a humidity dome for a week or two until their roots set in.