You can smoke, but you can't hunt

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Originally Posted by BreckenridgeOT

Take a look if your a hunter or interested in purchasing a fire-arm. Vail Daily: You can smoke, but you can't hunt

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i believe firearms is federal so they could deny for a federal offense. the question is how would they find out if the registry is confidential.



gotta go meded out

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Originally Posted by canaguy27

Did you read the article? I looked into this. When they say "illegal," they are talking about the feds definition. So... you are illegal according to the fed, therefore you cannot purchase weapons from a store or hold an concealed to carry license.

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It's my opinion that possession of a redcard/being in the registry, doesn't automatically prove that you are breaking federal laws. Until I purchase medicine I'm not breaking federal law.

Are you saying that the act of getting a doctor's recommendation, getting his opinion that you could benefit from medical marijuana is a federal offense?

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

It's my opinion that possession of a redcard/being in the registry, doesn't automatically prove that you are breaking federal laws. Until I purchase medicine I'm not breaking federal law.

Are you saying that the act of getting a doctor's recommendation, getting his opinion that you could benefit from medical marijuana is a federal offense?

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duh

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Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS

duh

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If 'duh' means yes, can you please point me to relevant federal laws that I'm breaking by visiting a doctor and obtaining a piece of paper that says I might benefit from medical marijuana. Or, clarify what you're saying.

Obviously the Federal Government does see marijuana as medicine since there are federal medical marijuana patients. How can it be truely a voilation of federal law?

Toke of the Town - Federal Marijuana Patient Safe From The DEA

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

It's my opinion that possession of a redcard/being in the registry, doesn't automatically prove that you are breaking federal laws. Until I purchase medicine I'm not breaking federal law.

Are you saying that the act of getting a doctor's recommendation, getting his opinion that you could benefit from medical marijuana is a federal offense?

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You obviously didn't read the article or what I wrote.

You said

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I would imagine this wouldn't hold up in court, since I could technically have the red card with recommendation from my doctor and not answer yes to that question.

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I said this:

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Did you read the article? I looked into this. When they say "illegal," they are talking about the feds definition. So... you are illegal according to the fed, therefore you cannot purchase weapons from a store or hold an concealed to carry license.

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On one hand you are saying that you need mmj for your pain or whatever. Then on the other hand you are saying that you don't need it so you can buy a gun. If you don't need it, then you must turn your card in immediately. So you are committing a crime whatever way you chose to go.

All I said was it is illegal to purchase a gun from a store and/or to hold a ccw license with a red card.

Are you gunning for the Barkowitz award? No pun intended.

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

He said off-the-record that the threshold is 8 hours. If I voluntarily disclosed that I had smoked any amount of pot in the last 8 hours, I would have been arrested and charged. Not a ticket, arrested, just like a DUI. I asked how they'd enforce guilt since there is no roadside way to tell when the last time I smoked, he says it's entirely dependent on how you answer, like they're giving you the opportunity to screw yourself.

Shady!

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this is the way cops work. when you get pulled over they have to tell you why they are pulling you over and once they get your license and insurance (barring you don't have warrants etc) they have to tell you immediately if they are giving you a citation or not. a written warning is considered a citation. once they give you the citation you are free to go and don't have to answer another single question. period.

the cops have to disclose all of that info so they aren't "using their power" or holding anything over your head to intimidate or guilt you into confessing to something. anything they get after issuing a citation or releasing you is deemed voluntary. so they try to keep you talking and get you to divulge info.

hell, they can straight up lie to you with no repercussions.


-shake

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Originally Posted by canaguy27

You obviously didn't read the article or what I wrote.

You said

I said this:

On one hand you are saying that you need mmj for your pain or whatever. Then on the other hand you are saying that you don't need it so you can buy a gun. If you don't need it, then you must turn your card in immediately. So you are committing a crime whatever way you chose to go.

All I said was it is illegal to purchase a gun from a store and/or to hold a ccw license with a red card.

Are you gunning for the Barkowitz award? No pun intended.

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I'm sorry if you thought I was discussing my own personal experience. I was asking a question using myself as a reference. I already smoke and am in possession, so I'm breaking federal law.

I was only posing a 'what-if' for someone who wanted both a medical card and a permit to carry.

I don't know enough about guns, but do you have to 'affirm' or otherwise state you are still in compliance with federal drug laws once approved? Couldn't I get a gun after the doc visit but before the MMC visit.

I'm just trying to find a way around the 'are you breaking federal law'. When I purchase a firearm, I'd like to answer that question honestly and in a way that would be legal. Hope that makes sense. We agree that either way we're going to be non-compliant at the federal level.

I don't have any plants and I don't have any guns, so I'm pretty far removed from getting the 'bartkowitz award', if that's how you're using that phrase.

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

If 'duh' means yes, can you please point me to relevant federal laws that I'm breaking by visiting a doctor and obtaining a piece of paper that says I might benefit from medical marijuana. Or, clarify what you're saying.

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well perhaps i commented in haste, however from what i understand red flags will be investigated, the real question is how would they find out if the registry is sealed unless due process is used to view it. just remember at the fed level mj is terrorism and warrantless searches still exist (another casualty of war). all i mean is keep your nose squeeky clean and all should be good. red card could implicate one for further attention.

meded...comon:D get happy

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

I'm sorry if you thought I was discussing my own personal experience. I was asking a question using myself as a reference. I already smoke and am in possession, so I'm breaking federal law.

I was only posing a 'what-if' for someone who wanted both a medical card and a permit to carry.

I don't know enough about guns, but do you have to 'affirm' or otherwise state you are still in compliance with federal drug laws once approved? Couldn't I get a gun after the doc visit but before the MMC visit.

I'm just trying to find a way around the 'are you breaking federal law'. When I purchase a firearm, I'd like to answer that question honestly and in a way that would be legal. Hope that makes sense. We agree that either way we're going to be non-compliant at the federal level.

I don't have any plants and I don't have any guns, so I'm pretty far removed from getting the 'bartkowitz award', if that's how you're using that phrase.

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the gun is irrelavant smoking mj is breaking the law at the fed level, period.

meded is a hell of a drug