Dispensaries way over priced
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Originally Posted by OhNoYaDont
How do you know how much taxes I pay? (Looking over my shoulder). I probably pay more taxes than you make in one year ... I also contribute heavily to my LOCAL economy. I employ people, I buy goods and services. The landscaping company where I buy my dirt ($3500 last year) doesn't care where I get my money. Neither does the guy that runs the back loader, the crew that assembles and disassembles the greenhouses every year, or the electricians. The owner of the hardware store, or the hydro store that sells nutes to me ($2200 last year). They all pay taxes too, and they employ people. They all have families to support. I will let them know that they make too much money.
I pay taxes on my farm income (and other income). I won't go to jail for income tax evasion. Farmers who don't get themselves to a good CPA and pay taxes on their legally obtained income are stupid - they will eventually get caught.
If you want to grow and cut out the middle man, do it. My next door neighbor owns a chain of those Lube places ... he doesnt care if you work on your own car because there's enough people out there that just dont want to. If you want to change the oil in your own car, do it. But don't bitch because he charges $19.95 to do it. And, yea, it only costs him $5 - thats profit. That's capitalism. There is enough people out there willing to pay me and my next door neighbor to work. So far the US is still capitalist, unless Obama can hurry his communist agenda it will remain so. Profit is a dirty word, but not yet illegal; so I admit to working for a living. Viva la capitalism, and God Bless America.
I was in our local liquor store the other day - they have a bottle of Scotch in there that costs $625. For ONE bottle of whiskey. Worth it? Not to me. But, someone will pay it. Someone will buy it. Free choice, freedom, capitalism. Isn't it wonderful?
For $400 you used to be able to buy a gold bar - right. For $400 you used to be able to buy a new car (well, your grand parents did). So what? What does that have to do with anything? Farmers didn't create inflation - our bloated Socialist goverment, and a whole generation of fat asses that are too lazy to put down that fatty and get up off the couch and work.
And growing quality AND quantity is a lot of work. A LOT of work.
Ok?
Well put ohno!
Dispensaries way over priced
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Originally Posted by PurpleRoot
Well put ohno!
Second that 1... I grow Indoors and although I don't spend quite as much as you O I think many people don't really appreciate the LARGE amount of energy it takes to produce quality. Mold, stress snaps, pests(and all the BS they bring), Random sex changes, tending, breeding, watering, Costs, lighting schedules(well Indoors lol), Weather(for you lol) and of course the all #1 stress the Feds messing with you is always in the back of growers minds. I try to charge as little as I can and still stay afloat and I'm sure you do as well. Like you said its supply and demand. You have the blessing of land and I have my grow tents n tricks. People tend to think just because we grow it, it should be 80oz because we are non prof's "you don't pay tax". It still costs us a lot to produce quality in decent amounts to keep up with supply. Plus we have to eat as well. That coupled with the stress and demand keeps prices higher than they should. But I do admit I'm disgusted in some SoCal dispensaries. These guys are charging 60-75 8th because they can. I mean I charge 55 8th CAP which is 440oz for Hyrdo Grown as it cost's me more than Soil. But even then I run specials like $30-40 8th day, free delivery days/months, free joints certain months, ect. Idk why you all grow, but I do it to Help People ,put me through college, and because I honestly like to grow. I think some of these dispensaries and Growers either don't give a f^&* or forgot that along the way... I mean hell even Pizza hut lowered their prices lol...I know You don't control what Dispensaries do with your product I'm Just saying :thumbsup:
Just my 2 cents...
One Love...
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Dispensaries way over priced
Hope you guys don't mind me posting this up over here, just trying to get a lil feedback on bylaws for a nonprofit.
I am wanting to become a producer, but am trying to set up the company in a way that patients get meds as cheap as possible, with the grower still making money too. and great post ohno
Sometimes its easy to oversimplify things, and say drop price, I have grown my own stash for 8years, but havnt ever done anything large scale, so hard for me to take into consideration everything that may come up like security,etc..
http://boards.cannabis.com/new-mexic...plication.html
Dispensaries way over priced
Ya know ... I really don't pay attention to what the dispensary charges for their product. I don't care. I SELL to them - once that deal is done, I don't care what they do with it.
But, having said that ... I have patients that I supply for free. No charge. Nada. Why? Because, number one, they can't afford to buy it. And number two (and most important), they really NEED it. It really IS medicine. One lady is slowly (too slowly) dying. The smoke keeps her relatively comfortable. The other has MS, is a vet, and needs it to help control the jerks and cramps. I probably give away an oz a month or more.
In my humble opionion - all growers should do that. Pick one or two and take care of them. It is the Christian thing to do, and it will improve your yield to where you won't even miss it.
Dispensaries way over priced
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Originally Posted by OhNoYaDont
Ya know ... I really don't pay attention to what the dispensary charges for their product. I don't care. I SELL to them - once that deal is done, I don't care what they do with it.
But, having said that ... I have patients that I supply for free. No charge. Nada. Why? Because, number one, they can't afford to buy it. And number two (and most important), they really NEED it. It really IS medicine. One lady is slowly (too slowly) dying. The smoke keeps her relatively comfortable. The other has MS, is a vet, and needs it to help control the jerks and cramps. I probably give away an oz a month or more.
In my humble opionion - all growers should do that. Pick one or two and take care of them. It is the Christian thing to do, and it will improve your yield to where you won't even miss it.
Nice of you to do that. I think that you and people like you are wonderful for promoting legal, safe cannabis. I know you don't do it for attention, but I think letting the world know that not all growers are greedy bastards, and are interested in really helping people would make us all look better.
Dispensaries way over priced
so are you saying that all the growers pay taxes on the pot they sell to the pot shops?Or is it just a few?Don't take it personal i don't hate you.I just think that pot is over priced in my opinion.and if you can get your oil changed for 19.95 tell me where.:rasta:
Dispensaries way over priced
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Originally Posted by ghoti48
I have seen a lot of threads,about how much Medical MJ is worth. Folks seem to think that $ 200.00 an oz to a local club,is a fair whole sale price. Then the club jacks up the price to $ 50 or 60 an 1/8 oz. Stop the madness!!
Medical MJ patients should not be paying that kind of money for medication.
The Greenthumb Collective will not charge it's members that kind of money for meds. It's not about making big profits. It's about medical patients getting ther meds or their plants,at prices they can live with. Please visit
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Grow your own end the BS:D
If you can go to the despensaries, you have a card, you can legally grow your own.
Stop bitchin and start growing. If all MMJ patients would do that there would be a need for stores at all. Stop depending on the stores:hippy:
Dispensaries way over priced
I also grow indoors....and have patients that are giving free medicine...they need the medicine and can not afford it...and I provide it to them. As far as what the co-ops charge...it is not my business...as I am a grower of A to AAA grade indoor medicine. To grow quality indoors medicine there are major costs to consider and those costs have to be recovered. Taxes are a part of any business, as is insurance, workers comp, fuel, legal fees, security, and all the costs to consider to have a top flight grow room.
Mimbresvalley I have read all your posts on the NM board and frankly I do not understand your points.....finally....I just stopped posting on that forum because you do not understand....growing...or...growing on a larger scale than a closet grow or maybe one plant....you have read the grow bible and the case study on the sea of green and claim that anyone who can't get more than 1 gram a watt.....is a bad grower. Hey if the state of California would let me grow 400 plants under 8000 watts of HPS in a sea of green I could easily have those same results....that is not the case and when you grow over 99 plants anywhere in the U.S....it's federal and 5 years in jail minimum.
You will never make friends on any of these boards by insulting growers who are just trying to help people get the medicine they need and to cover their costs and to earn a living. We are not growing to get rich, because growing is not easy, we do it because we love it and helping people in need.
Dispensaries way over priced
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Originally Posted by weeddaddy50
I also grow indoors....and have patients that are giving free medicine...they need the medicine and can not afford it...and I provide it to them. As far as what the co-ops charge...it is not my business...as I am a grower of A to AAA grade indoor medicine. To grow quality indoors medicine there are major costs to consider and those costs have to be recovered. Taxes are a part of any business, as is insurance, workers comp, fuel, legal fees, security, and all the costs to consider to have a top flight grow room.
Mimbresvalley I have read all your posts on the NM board and frankly I do not understand your points.....finally....I just stopped posting on that forum because you do not understand....growing...or...growing on a larger scale than a closet grow or maybe one plant....you have read the grow bible and the case study on the sea of green and claim that anyone who can't get more than 1 gram a watt.....is a bad grower. Hey if the state of California would let me grow 400 plants under 8000 watts of HPS in a sea of green I could easily have those same results....that is not the case and when you grow over 99 plants anywhere in the U.S....it's federal and 5 years in jail minimum.
You will never make friends on any of these boards by insulting growers who are just trying to help people get the medicine they need and to cover their costs and to earn a living. We are not growing to get rich, because growing is not easy, we do it because we love it and helping people in need.
Yep that's what I have been saying for long time lol... I can live off 30k a year. I don't have to make the Dispensary 100k a day(yes I talked to a guy who makes that in LA) type of cash to be happy. I'm just not that kind of cat. Give me a fishing rod, video games, bills paid and the occasional bar money and I'm a happy dude. I just started on the Business side with Delivery,so I'm in the red still. But when I balance out I'm planning on starting a dispensary here in SoCal that's going to be much cheaper than anywhere else along with some other cool idea's I have. In the end its all about loving what you do and using it to help people. Good Karma breeds Better Karma...
One Love...
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Dispensaries way over priced
I have never grown more than 6 plants at once, never claimed to, but I have been growing trees since heath took me under his wing back during the Overgrow days. In all honesty I don't think Jorge Cervantes is even much of a grower, and yes a lot of the information is outdated, I was just making a point about the cost of cannabis to produce. World renowned = yes(mostly by noobs), efficient= not even close.
My Mentor, read&learn :jointsmile:
