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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum

If the police caused property damage, you should pursue it. A meeting with the police chief and your attorney would be a good starting place. I don't know diddly about the law, but the police should be held responsible for what they break.

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You aren't understanding how things work.

One of the other legal growers did just that. He filed for the return of cash and meds that were seized during his raid the same day along with a bill for damages. The DA pressed charges the next day.

Now he has to pay for damages caused by the battering ram, plus mega legal expenses. Law enforcement does not have to pay their court costs and attorneys fees, so they win either way. They can bankrupt you by forcing defense and seizing assets.

It's how it works in this land, the land of the free.
Our forefathers have to be spinning in their graves at the way our government runs today.

Most folks don't comprehend the real America.

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Originally Posted by SoCoMMJ

You aren't understanding how things work.

One of the other legal growers did just that. He filed for the return of cash and meds that were seized during his raid the same day along with a bill for damages. The DA pressed charges the next day.

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Talk to Corry. This is settled law. He's already won at least two cases I know of where police were forced to return marijuana and equipment confiscated by the police. Your damages should be covered. This is going to sound bitchy, but I think it is sort of your responsibility to pursue this. The law is changing fast and unfortunately, the police are behind the times. As a citizen and a business owner, you would be doing a service to your community if you confronted the police on this issue.

(I teach civics, so pretty much all of my answers are of the Mr. Smith Goes to Washington type!)

EDIT: I can recommend an attorney in southern Colorado, if needed.

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Originally Posted by cowgirl1

In the July 7th, 2010 issue of the Western Slope Watch Dog.

Articile starts on page 2 and the rest of the article is on page 15. On page 15 4th paragrah from the end it states. Delta County Sheriff Fred McKee has announced he will arrest anyone growing more then 30 plants in his county. The information concerning the adjoining sheriffs joining forces comes from a family member who is a DEA agent as some on you know.

As I stated a while back this 70% number that the state came up with is going to bite some dispencaries and contract growers in the ass.

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The sheriff can do all the arresting he wants too--but it's not going to make it through the court system--because of 1284 and the written LAW of this state.

In fact--if we have these type rogue sheriff's going off the reservation of written state law--they put their counties at risk for law suits for financial damage and false arrest charges. It could get very expensive for counties to keep these type sheriffs on their payrolls--LOL.

The law is the law--and this state expects law enforcement to follow the law also.

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Originally Posted by Stickybooger

I remember reading your posts, you said they DEA or Feds or both were going to start busting dispensaries when 1284 passed. Has this started happening yet?

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I don't think I have ever stated that, but I'm pretty new here. Can you find that post or is it possible you are mistaken? I might have posted a link or something, but I absolutely have never taken the position on feds busting dispensaries post 1284.

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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum

EDIT: I can recommend an attorney in southern Colorado, if needed.

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I have an attorney. He said pay for the door and shut up even though you have not broken the law. It will cost more to sue and then defend yourself than the cost of the door.

I have many many thousands to pay to the state right now anyways.... so right, or wrong, law enforcement wins round 1 with their petty little show of force.

You spend all your effort protecting yourself from rippers, robbers, and burglars, when in fact it is our government you should really be fearing. Teach that in your class if you really want your students to learn something :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by SoCoMMJ

I have an attorney. He said pay for the door and shut up even though you have not broken the law. It will cost more to sue and then defend yourself than the cost of the door.

I have many many thousands to pay to the state right now anyways.... so right, or wrong, law enforcement wins round 1 with their petty little show of force.

You spend all your effort protecting yourself from rippers, robbers, and burglars, when in fact it is our government you should really be fearing. Teach that in your class if you really want your students to learn something :thumbsup:

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Don't just quietly walk away from law enforcement harrassment. I have been on both sides of local government as a citizen--and as a government official. Believe me--if the county commissioners or city council feel that law enforcement is overstepping their boundaries of the law and that they may end up in a law suit that they may lose--having to pay damages for--these government officials will STOP it immediately--by dragging the sheriff or other law enforcement onto the carpet to discuss these issues. The very last thing any county or city wants is a law suit that they may lose. Which they will lose if local law enforcement is in violation of the laws of this state or other.

Believe me--this is the way it works. And it works every time.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

Don't just quietly walk away from law enforcement harrassment. I have been on both sides of local government as a citizen--and as a government official. Believe me--if the county commissioners or city council feel that law enforcement is overstepping their boundaries of the law and that they may end up in a law suit that they may lose--having to pay damages for--these government officials will STOP it immediately--by dragging the sheriff or other law enforcement onto the carpet to discuss these issues. The very last thing any county or city wants is a law suit that they may lose. Which they will lose if local law enforcement is in violation of the laws of this state or other.

Believe me--this is the way it works. And it works every time.

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I disagree. Why would an elected or other government official care about liability? It's us as tax payers who are liable, not some 'government official'.

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Originally Posted by cologrower420

I don't think I have ever stated that, but I'm pretty new here. Can you find that post or is it possible you are mistaken? I might have posted a link or something, but I absolutely have never taken the position on feds busting dispensaries post 1284.

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Sorry cologrower420 I quoted the wrong post. The question was directed to cowgirl. I don't usually post so this system is unfamiliar to me, I'm sure Ill make some more mistakes in the future. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

Don't just quietly walk away from law enforcement harrassment. I have been on both sides of local government as a citizen--and as a government official. Believe me--if the county commissioners or city council feel that law enforcement is overstepping their boundaries of the law and that they may end up in a law suit that they may lose--having to pay damages for--these government officials will STOP it immediately--by dragging the sheriff or other law enforcement onto the carpet to discuss these issues. The very last thing any county or city wants is a law suit that they may lose. Which they will lose if local law enforcement is in violation of the laws of this state or other.

Believe me--this is the way it works. And it works every time.

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rightwinger I have to respetfully disagree we in the mmj field are not being treated like the average citizens...we have to eat shit sometimes and I think socommj is going through one of those situations I think that the fact that the dea walked away from there grow speaks louder then any lawsuit ever could...I for one am trying to comply with local law enforcement rather then buck them at every opportunity

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Originally Posted by Stickybooger

Sorry cologrower420 I quoted the wrong post. The question was directed to cowgirl. I don't usually post so this system is unfamiliar to me, I'm sure Ill make some more mistakes in the future. Sorry.

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no worries