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Yep they are correct about the upward drifting Ph with both Hydroton and Rockwool, but it can be kept to a minimum of work with a good washing and two long soaks followed by a rinse.
This why I installed an automatic Ph and EC controller, way over kill but I have things to do:rastasmoke: besides constant Ph adjusting.
Aloha weezard
Daddy
Sounds like a peat pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bringonthedoom
They are actually a li'l acidic, but that's a good thing in hydro, no?
I chased the 'tron around for a while.
Even followed directions. :)
Tried soaking the 'tron for a week in PH 5.0 using phosphoric acid as a PH down.
Still crept on me.:mad:
Seems not all hydrotron is created equal, yah?
Tried a lot of things, settled on coco.
You can jus' toss it inna net-pot and once it's moist it will not "shed" more than a few specks of coco.
But if you use "spitters" or sprayers, filter the water pump inlet to avoid clogs.
It will not chew-up the impeller like the rock dust will, but it can plug small holes
Disclaimer:
Not all coco is created equal either.:(
The Botanicare that comes in 5k blocks works very well for me.
I also use the small blocks of G.H. coco-tek.
Both are salt-free and have plenty of large fibre.:cool:
Suggest you read-up on coco. It is a superior medium.:thumbsup:
Aloha,
Weezard
ok so i pulled the hydroton out and replaced with with that peat thingy and the ph isnt really climbing as fast i gotta wait a while and see if it chills out. i got the pebbles sitting in another jug to see if it explains the ph increase. my ladies have started to droop, could the stress from this turn them hermy? also i used pretty much all my ph down on this issue, is there a household alternative to ph down that i could use for the moment or should i just suck it up and find some money lol
i know you think ph down is your solution but really the solution is to not use it. For now you must, but I hear that stuff builds up after a while and causes all sorts of issues. RO water, store filtered water or a medium that doesn't cause ph issues would be good alternatives to constantly chancing of ph issues.
Ways around the ph..use lemon juice or muriatic acid or buy the ph down in powder form and add your own water. I just bought a 35lb box for 16 bucks. I know that had to be a misprint which is why I wasnt going to let that deal go, but ordinarily it's still a better price then the liquid form.
Continue to screw around like this and hermies will be your fate. Whether or not this time caused one to develop time will tell. The plants will be stressed from this last ordeal but should pick back up tomorrow or the next day. If they continue to decline then something else has gone wrong. They should not be looking worse, but better as time goes by until they have fully recovered over the next two days. They will start back up where they left off.
I did I did!
"Ways around the ph..use lemon juice or muriatic acid or buy the ph down in powder form and add your own water. I just bought a 35lb box for 16 bucks. I know that had to be a misprint which is why I wasnt going to let that deal go, but ordinarily it's still a better price then the liquid form."
Holy Mackerel!
BOTD- Please disregard that advice!
Agricultural PH down is Phosphoric acid.
Ask for it by name and it's dirt cheap.
(Actually not all that expensive as a product either)
PDT - You overpaid for the bisulphite.:(
'bout 4 times what it costs as a generic.
It's for swimming pools and spas.
Quite unsuitable for horticulture.
Suggest you buy a spa.:D
HCL is also unsuitable.
And lemon juice is variable in it's PH so titration is problematic.
Giving advice that is not rock-solid is no favor, my friend.:)
Someone might take it.;)
Aloha,
Weezard
Good for you Weezard " Giving advice that is not rock-solid is no favor, my friend. Someone might take it "
No moves without all the facts !
Zeffer
alright i changed out the hydroton and the ph problem almost instantly ceased lol i threw that shit out. my ladies are about seven inches tall now and looking beautiful. thank you so much for the help. also where would i ask for phosphoric acid by name? still a newbie so please forgive me.
PH-down - Google Search
It's cheap and plentiful.
e-bay.
Hydro store,
Nursery,
Garden center,
Aquarium store.
Cdot's advertisers.
Jus' type what ya want into google's search box
Do the same thing for PH-up.
(Or any question you may have about anything.)
Pretty soon, you'll be an "oldbie"
Den you can help out da new newbies.:jointsmile:
Tip:
No help dem too much, makes 'em lazy.
An' spoon-feeding is a never-ending, thankless job.:(
Couple fishin' lessons is all most folks need.:thumbsup:
Aloha,
Weezard