Go growers...what do you think....

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Originally Posted by copobo

don't anyone accept any $2500 contracts. let them grow it!

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I feel like an ass, I was letting mine go for $2000 before all this.:(

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Originally Posted by puntacometa

..........about the $2500.00 per lb. grow contracts being proposed by some dispensaries? I'm not naming names, but this seems to be the first attempt at price fixing.

So I'm wondering......does this mean that I load my crop up in a panel van, drive it to the dispensary, unload it, we cut the plant off at the base of the stalk, weigh it and then I am paid $2500.00 per lb based on 1/4 the wet weight of the entire plant, I get paid on the spot while the revenue agent with a gun watches and the dispensary becomes responsible for hanging/trimming/drying and curing?

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I think I would just sit back and let the smoke clear a little here. In the first place--dispensories are required to grow 70% of their own. If you look at the economics of that--meaning they will have to hire employees-or refer to growers as employees-meaning fica payroll taxes--unemployment insurance--workman's compensation insurance--etc.--plus the economics of growing a plant which is very expensive---and now state license fees- local fees, etc.--it's not to hard to see that the price per oz. is going to dramatically rise.

To add--many dispensory owners are little concerned (the 100 plant) that the feds may enforce.

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Originally Posted by puntacometa

Keeping it small has it's advantages as long as your patients will generously compensate you for your labors. The new law attempts to make a caregiver lose money in an attempt to put him/her out of business by placing stupid non-profit language in the law, but there is no way in hell that I can stop my patients from paying me a consulting fee and labor charges as part of the overhead cost of production.

Sorry....I probably should have never started this thread. I'm very tired and curmudgeonous today.

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I'm glad you started this thread.

I had my heart in the right place when I started this venture. I searched and found low-income people who could not afford the doctor's fee and state application fee. Those patient's got their cards free and clear from me....now referred to by myself as S-U-C-K-E-R! I shelled out for 4 people/patients. One buys from me on a regular basis. One patient found out he couldn't tolerate smoking it due to a 30-year cigarette habit that he just quit. I just offer smoke at this time. He is going to the dispensaries and buying edibles and capsules....bless his heart, at least he's honest. The other 2 won't return my emails...pretty sure what's going on there. They're surfing the dispensaries.

So, now I have 4 patients and only 1 buys. I can't legally sell it to the dispensaries. I can get 1 more patient but I need one that will actually buy it from me. The state can't give me any guidelines for dropping patients off my caregivership. What a mess.

I've invested a butt load of time and money into this venture for absolutely nothing at this point.

The only joy I've had is watching the plants grow. Too bad they'll be going in the trash!

Sorry, just frustrated.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

I think I would just sit back and let the smoke clear a little here. In the first place--dispensories are required to grow 70% of their own. If you look at the economics of that--meaning they will have to hire employees-or refer to growers as employees-meaning fica payroll taxes--unemployment insurance--workman's compensation insurance--etc.--plus the economics of growing a plant which is very expensive---and now state license fees- local fees, etc.--it's not to hard to see that the price per oz. is going to dramatically rise.

To add--many dispensory owners are little concerned (the 100 plant) that the feds may enforce.

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And all of this could have been handeled so "easily" by requiring that independant growers go through a criminal background check--and requiring that dispensory owners file a 1099 on them so they pay federal and state taxes on the income from being independant growers.

Government at work--LOL

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

And all of this could have been handeled so "easily" by requiring that independant growers go through a criminal background check--and requiring that dispensory owners file a 1099 on them so they pay federal and state taxes on the income from being independant growers.

Government at work--LOL

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:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

And all of this could have been handeled so "easily" by requiring that independant growers go through a criminal background check--and requiring that dispensory owners file a 1099 on them so they pay federal and state taxes on the income from being independant growers.

Government at work--LOL

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Thats so true! I feel like they just want independent growers out of the picture.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

I think I would just sit back and let the smoke clear a little here. In the first place--dispensories are required to grow 70% of their own. If you look at the economics of that--meaning they will have to hire employees-or refer to growers as employees-meaning fica payroll taxes--unemployment insurance--workman's compensation insurance--etc.--plus the economics of growing a plant which is very expensive---and now state license fees- local fees, etc.--it's not to hard to see that the price per oz. is going to dramatically rise.

To add--many dispensory owners are little concerned (the 100 plant) that the feds may enforce.

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So if I'm sitting on 100 growing plants when the new law goes into effect and I don't have an affiliation with a "center", approximately how far out in the wind is my ass while I sit back and let the smoke clear?

Can these dispensaries even buy my product if it was growing during the hiatus between July 1 and the time I affiliate with a "center"? What is the status of my crop after July 1 if I'm not affiliated with a dispensary? Seems to me that since the caregiver model for over 5 patients is gone, I'm going to have 70+ plants being grown illegally after July 1 if I don't have my ducks in a row.

Also, the price per oz may rise, but I think we all know how much of that price will go into the pocket of the grower. I had a dispensary offer me a $2500.00 contract last year so that they could "reduce the prices to their patients". Total bullshit. They didn't reduce their prices at all. They just screwed the growers who signed up.

I would definately get that plant count down somehow. Sell entire plants or something. Your "arse" is too far out in the wind for me.

get edible signoffs.

tell your patients priority will be given to patients with increased plant counts.

there are docs that will sign off for 50 plants and increased weight. 2 of those patients would just about cover it.

BUT, you won't be able to legally sell to dispensaries or folks who aren't your patients.

A friend of mine with 20+ patients is only taking those with increased counts + use 4+ oz's a month.

gotta pay the bills I guess.

For me, scale back... I brought the count and wattage down last week.

We're offering contracts that pay up to $3200 for high end buds. Just depends on who you're talking to, I guess.