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THContent, I misjudged you and I apologize. I see now where you are coming from and as it turns out we are no so far apart. I am really not an atheist, nor am I a believer. I do believe there is a force creating order out of chaos as I stated in other threads. Einstein's vision of god is actually pretty similar to mine. To yours as well it seems.
Albert Einstein is on record as saying that he did not believe in a personal God. They keyword is personal. Einstein did not believe that god knows or cares about you on a personal level, that he hears your prayers or interferes in anyway in response to prayers. Instead, he believed that there was a God that maintained and created the harmony of the universe.
"I'm not an atheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what that is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the most intelligent human toward God."
That deeply emotional conviction of a presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."
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Amen!
And well said.
I find no deep truth in any current, or past "religion".
And petitioning the "lord" with prayer, borders on insanity.
Our whole concept of addressable "gods" is a human fantasy.
(It's just not that kine sing.)
How arrogant to think that we are the end result of evolution.
I feel we are one very small step, very early on, and as such could not comprehend "the plan" if it was spoon-fed to us.
Jus' my opinion fellow trilobites.:D
Da Wee 'zard
I knew we were lol, just making sure haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBlazer
I strongly oppose religion because it is man-made/written twisted reasoning that is used to control people. Using the un-comprehensible force to scare the shit out of people to get them to do the things desired within their beliefs.
Religion in my book is the furthest thing from God and the truth, talk about ironic.
Very interesting! I like that quote from Einstein especially
Is this an intelligent design argument? If so, where did the designer come from? Did (s)he create her/himself?
Man, I love a good infinite regression.Quote:
Originally Posted by halfassedjedi
"Turtles all the way down..."
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Amen Brother!!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by THContent
The truth is that most free thinking adults have likely done some seeking.
At this point, if a proof about God can't be reduced to something very short, then it is worthless - no offense intended (really).
Further, the Bible (and I could ramble about this at length) is no better a source than the Iliad for constructing metaphysical views. Worse, for unlike the Iliad, or any number of things, the Bible went through the Constantine years.
But I said I wouldn't ramble about it, and I won't.
There is no proof that God must exist, simple as that.
If it makes you happy though, and makes you be a better person, then more power to you, really.
im not catching your witty point.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeTripper