Bud leading to panic attack?!

you guys are fuckin weird. "The Fear"!! "I can't seen to find anything about it" Did you really scour the internet searching for "The Fear" KYS

withdrawals from otherb shit you are doing, drinking, blow, opiates, hell even cigarettes. Check your blood pressure you probably need an asprin, or atenolol. Get a good cold beer, and chill.

If there's anything I've learned from smoking it's that these feelings will come and go. I've been at the point where I almost stuck an epinephrine pen into the side of my leg because I thought my throat was closing. You learn a lot about yourself in these situations though. In my opinion they make you stronger in that you are seemingly facing a nightmare scenario at times and getting through it allows you to recognize these feelings in the future and become stronger.

I have asthma, terrible environmental allergies, a deadly nut allergy, etc so I've had my fair share of panic attacks. You just have to open up a little dialog with yourself and rationalize the feelings as they come. The increase in heartbeat is obviously not in your head but you have to remind yourself that you aren't having a heart attack. If you legitimize any of your fears it will only reinforce them in the future. It's a mind game really and although scary it's something I think every pot smoker has experienced at least once.

Personally, I smoke to get rid of anxiety...it's been my nature lately to be very anxious and smoking seems to make everything easier. I'm able to titrate it to the point where anxiety is gone and ambition is up. Although, sometimes when I get absolutely ripped I simply eat everything within sight and rub one off in an epic manner. :D

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Originally Posted by Barney Trouble

If there's anything I've learned from smoking it's that these feelings will come and go. I've been at the point where I almost stuck an epinephrine pen into the side of my leg because I thought my throat was closing. You learn a lot about yourself in these situations though. In my opinion they make you stronger in that you are seemingly facing a nightmare scenario at times and getting through it allows you to recognize these feelings in the future and become stronger.

I have asthma, terrible environmental allergies, a deadly nut allergy, etc so I've had my fair share of panic attacks. You just have to open up a little dialog with yourself and rationalize the feelings as they come. The increase in heartbeat is obviously not in your head but you have to remind yourself that you aren't having a heart attack. If you legitimize any of your fears it will only reinforce them in the future. It's a mind game really and although scary it's something I think every pot smoker has experienced at least once.

Personally, I smoke to get rid of anxiety...it's been my nature lately to be very anxious and smoking seems to make everything easier. I'm able to titrate it to the point where anxiety is gone and ambition is up. Although, sometimes when I get absolutely ripped I simply eat everything within sight and rub one off in an epic manner. :D

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So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in Barney.. Barney Rubble? .. trouble! Haha I love Don Cheadle in those movies! Actually the casting and characters in the Ocean's movies is pretty spot on in my opinion. I hope that's what your name is about or else this is awkward..

Also I have athsma and environmental allergies too dude! You aren't alone. Except this weekend in rained insane in my area, basement floods and the like. It seemed to wash away a lot of the spring dust and mould and pollen.


Kyle dude.. how are you holding out? Let's have an update here homie don't leave us worried!

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Here's my take FWIW.

When you're not stoned, you spend almost zero time during the day attending to your involuntary muscular action. What I mean by this is unless something goes wrong with the system, your brain just filters it all out as unecessary. When your heart rate gets elevated while you're "sober" you notice it, but it causes no concern normally. Usually the cause is self evident. You just ran, or lifted something heavy, or a hot babe just got on the elevator with you, etc. Your brain acknowledges your increase in heart rate to the level that you become conscious of it, but then forget it since it doesn't signal anything wrong.

When stoned, particularly on very potent weed, a lot of folks experience a rise in heart beat. It's a common side effect. Except now when your brain notices it, there is no readily apparent cause from physical exertion, etc. Because another common affect of weed is increased awareness of your body, you give it much more conscious attention than normally. Combined with paranoia (another side effect) all this can trigger your body's "fight or flight" reaction. Your spasms and an even more elevated heart rate were most likely caused by a shot of adrenaline from this reaction.

What you have to remember is none of it is real. You are not in any real danger. Basically, it's all in your head.

I believe that if you remind yourself that your anxiety is fueled by side effects at the outset, you can ignore it and be just fine. It works for me whenever I feel myself getting anxious.

Otherwise, I recommend only moderate smoking/smoking mids.

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Verry true i had to quit smoking at one time because i had a verry sever anxiety attack since then ive learned how to control it. just tell ur body to relax when ur stoned, and tell ur self over and over everything is cool

The mind is so powerful. The power of the mind to influence actual physical processes in the body is why placebos actually reduce symptoms.

I read about an experiment where a hypnotized test subject was touched with an ice cube, but told it was a hot poker. The test subject actually developed a blister in the shape of where the ice cube touched the skin.

I also saw first hand a friend's worry lead to an inexplicable rash covering his entire body. When that worry was alleviated, the rash disappeared right before our eyes, like the death transformation in those old wolfman movies.

The mind is like a hot car. You have to steer it and watch how hard you push on the accelerator or else you lose control of it . . .

Trust me, I've crashed mine into a wall a time or two. :D

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Trust me, I've crashed mine into a wall a time or two. :D

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You look it!

Just kidding. ;)

BlueBlazer my friend, you always have the best anecdotal stories. You would make quite a coffee table book.

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You look it!

Just kidding. ;)

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lol, Guess I led with my chin on that one. :thumbsup:

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BlueBlazer my friend, you always have the best anecdotal stories. You would make quite a coffee table book.

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Thank you Johnny. One thing wretched old farts have in abundance is stories . . . :D

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I hope that's what your name is about or else this is awkward..

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haha, yes and no...it's an obscure reference to a boston radio program, but i did have that scene of ocean's 11 in mind when i signed up

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Also I have athsma and environmental allergies too dude! You aren't alone. Except this weekend in rained insane in my area, basement floods and the like. It seemed to wash away a lot of the spring dust and mould and pollen.

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glad to know i'm not the only one! smoking doesn't really bother me but i occasionally break out in hives when i handle it. i actually experimented and rubbed some kif into my skin and sure enough...big hives. whatever i'm allergic to must be destroyed during combustion.... :jointsmile: