The Tea part - Grass Roots

Holy fragmented post delusions, shit going to kill mi! haha, be back later on when I got some free time to deal wit... :D

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

there is a large segment of the "republican" voters who have begun to feel alienated by that party. the republican party, like their counterparts across the aisle, have ceased to represent conservative concerns, many of them the very tenets this country was founded on. many people see this as the impetus for the creation of the tea party movement. if republicans are to return to their roots and regain any real power, it can only be by embracing the ideals of their conservative base or surrendering entirely to the waste and mediocrity of the democrats' socialistic stylings. of course business would align itself with the individualist concepts of conservatism. it would be foolhardy to believe that an economy controlled by the state could provide the necessary freedoms that business needs to thrive

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ok one fragment at a time here..

Agreed. Heard some talk from former Republican Politicians that feel the party is not what it once was and no longer associate themselves with the party. Now there are the Politicians that are still active with the party, and they are desperately trying to jump on the Tea boat to be one of the cool kids, but is that going to redirect the Republicans back to their... roots, or is it just a way to weasel their way back into ... Power. Meanwhile the Tea Party is comprised of every political walk of life, all displeased with the direction the Government is heading for so long but is being spearheaded by Conservative media and special interest.

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

it appears as if you subscribe to the notion that privilege is evil. is it wrong that the father should wish to pass down to his son what he has earned? the privilege of wealth is an earned privilege and demonizing its recipients is base envy, an envy that is played upon by the unscrupulous in their quest for power. divisions of race, religion, class and the myriad other concepts that separate us are also the product of that struggle for power combined with our own ignorance. each time we surrender to that ignorance we strengthen the divisions and chip away at our own right to self-determination. bias certainly exists and it should be stamped out where it interferes with the rights of others, but claiming it as an excuse for failure or the sole reason for success only plays into the hands of those who wish to keep us divided.

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No, Privilege by itself is not evil, it is the effect it has on Eurocentric minds that I object with. People who are born into Privilege tend to view the world through Privilege colored glasses, and look at the adversity of another and say, yeah well I had to wait on a long line at the shopping center because I had one item too many for the Express Line so get over it. I just can't shake the feeling, it breeds bigotry under the guise of equality and tolerance. This is by far not the only problem with privilege, but I have no idea where this thread is going so I'm gonna stop this reply... Now

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Originally Posted by RedLocks

. ...somewhat surprised that you would be defending Corporate interests under that avatar of yours bro ;)

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okay, now I gotta ask, who is that? I've always thought that was Janis Joplin. ??

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Originally Posted by boaz

okay, now I gotta ask, who is that? I've always thought that was Janis Joplin. ??

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voting on young ozzy or could be janis, either way, something that exists apart from the mainstream. Cept for Ozzy going on tv with his own show and all.. pretty sure he didn't realize he was on tv tho ;)

The Tea Party is backed by Ronny Raygun leftovers and if you liked the Raygun years with double digit inflation then go for it.I would love the Green party and Libertarian party to merge with Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul running as President and VP.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by RedLocks

voting on young ozzy or could be janis, either way, something that exists apart from the mainstream. Cept for Ozzy going on tv with his own show and all.. pretty sure he didn't realize he was on tv tho ;)

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:D yeah, Ozz my second guess, but no glasses, tho. but, yeah, your right, could be a young Oz :smokin: off topic? but :rastasmoke: did you guys know Tony Iommy, the guitarist for Sabbath, was born with out fingertips. he glued leather tips to his fingers. :smokin: I think that's why he such a unique sound, nothing sounds quite like the original sabbath. :pimp:

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

corporations are made up of the people and those partisan groups are made up of the people. even lobbyists represent various interests that are a part of the people. why should their voice not be heard as well? why shouldn't america's most productive sector be represented along with the denizens of the welfare state?

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corporations are made up of people/citizens. each citizen has a vote. you shouldn't need/be allowed, to have another vote, just because you're part of the internal workings of a major corporation. it's "we the people," not "we the people, and the people that make up major corporations." we all have a voice, individually, not as a group that makes tremendous monetary contributions to parties. when the supreme court allowed corporations the right to make those huge contributions, they fucked up, and fucked u.s.! and the tea party, what a joke! for the most part, a bunch of gun toting hillbillies. people are still under the wrong impression that obama is gonna take away guns. any group that claims palin as part of their inner workings, is a JOKE!!!

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Originally Posted by boaz

okay, now I gotta ask, who is that? I've always thought that was Janis Joplin. ??

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of course it's janis!!! but then, i suppose it's time for a change.



oops, i forgot i'm not on my own computer. guess i'll have to wait til i get home to make the switch.

i just want to point out that both reps and dems are representing corporate america. The amount of campaign contributions is one of the biggest factors in being elected. The majority of contributions come from big business. Its not reasonable for anyone to expect that wouldn't impact decisions. If you run enough commercials, get your message repeated enough times, ppl start to believe. The american system is now setup with two powerful well funded parties fighting it out, why would the media ,who's profits are made from ratings and commercials, spend much of their political coverage on anything other than that fight? IMO changing how politics is financed is the only way for americans to regain the influence that has been slowly slipping away since the industrial revolution.