Medical 'donations'

To those saying these stores are cheaper than the street, maybe it is in some cases for very small quantities.
In my case, my friends have provided for cheaper than the advertised rates of roughly $10 a gram when buying an ounce or more. I was hoping that a legal supply would equal a better quality and price. This is not the case.

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Originally Posted by justpics

So when is your dispensary opening up that charges $2 a gram for indoor and gives away outdoor for free?

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I'm not planning to open one.
I'm also not planning to grow anything.

I did not ever say it should be given away for free.

If it did become totally legal, it would be very profitable at a rate far less than $4500 per pound.
Even at $2 a gram, that's almost $1000 a pound, even then it would be profitable.

For those places that do not grow their own to sell, and are forced to pay $3000+ per pound, they have to sell it above what they pay, of course.

Those that grow their own, and still want over $4000 a pound are only taking advantage of the loophole in the law. They would be selling drugs if they were legal, illegal, harmful or helpful. For them, it's best this way for things to be in the gray area. They can charge just as much as street dealers (or some say here they should charge more) without as much risk.
If it was totally illegal - high risk, high profit
If it was totally legal - no risk, no profit (tobacco companies would be much more efficient that home growers)
If it's like California - best option for drug dealers - high profits, less risk

The government needs to step in and do something to take away the profits of the crime syndicates:
A) Government or pharmaceutical companies producing for patients
B) Legalize it completely

A lot of people have a lot of money to lose if they can't grow/sell at these prices. This money should be taken out of the hands of dealers and put into the hands of the government/community or at least into legitimate business.

Go the legal route and we'll have cops with more time to protect citizens against violent crimes, less people in jail, more money in the economy and maybe most importantly a more free, more green society.

It's not legal to possess cannabis in this state - patient or not. What we have is an affirmative defense - the right to a medical defense - not legality.

Also, there is no legal supply. If there was, everything would change overnight. But, there isn't. That's the problem.

Justpics is dead on the money - 1000% accurate.

Anybody ever bother to price an attorney and what it would cost to fight a case of trafficing in federal court? It ain't cheap and a smart dispensary has got to be all lawyered up.

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Originally Posted by seattlegreens

To those saying these stores are cheaper than the street, maybe it is in some cases for very small quantities.
In my case, my friends have provided for cheaper than the advertised rates of roughly $10 a gram when buying an ounce or more. I was hoping that a legal supply would equal a better quality and price. This is not the case.



I'm not planning to open one.
I'm also not planning to grow anything.

I did not ever say it should be given away for free.

If it did become totally legal, it would be very profitable at a rate far less than $4500 per pound.
Even at $2 a gram, that's almost $1000 a pound, even then it would be profitable.

For those places that do not grow their own to sell, and are forced to pay $3000+ per pound, they have to sell it above what they pay, of course.

Those that grow their own, and still want over $4000 a pound are only taking advantage of the loophole in the law. They would be selling drugs if they were legal, illegal, harmful or helpful. For them, it's best this way for things to be in the gray area. They can charge just as much as street dealers (or some say here they should charge more) without as much risk.
If it was totally illegal - high risk, high profit
If it was totally legal - no risk, no profit (tobacco companies would be much more efficient that home growers)
If it's like California - best option for drug dealers - high profits, less risk

The government needs to step in and do something to take away the profits of the crime syndicates:
A) Government or pharmaceutical companies producing for patients
B) Legalize it completely

A lot of people have a lot of money to lose if they can't grow/sell at these prices. This money should be taken out of the hands of dealers and put into the hands of the government/community or at least into legitimate business.

Go the legal route and we'll have cops with more time to protect citizens against violent crimes, less people in jail, more money in the economy and maybe most importantly a more free, more green society.

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This has got to be the most idiotic statement ive read in a long time.

Do you REALLY want big pharm and goberment to take over the industry?

Dude, youre either too stoned or ignorant to really believe our "government" will do us right on these meds?

MJ has been regulated by quality and street prices. Like it or not, there is a standardization in the process. Just because you dont agree with it does not mean it should be dealt to the hands of the government.
Sure give them the power to control our MJ meds just like they control AIDs meds...and all the other EXPENSIVE means to keep you alive.

Geez, now ive heard it all!

Just legalize it and remove all government controls and it will solve most of the problems. Thats why its important to get the intiative passed. The only problem with the intiative is the problem with every intiative in Washington. Its only good for 2 years and then the legislature gets to make a mess out of it just like they have with every intiative we've passed.

The one I want to emphasise here is the need to stay calm and react peacefully to what is happening. This is not easy when there is so much stress and fear around with regard to the MMJ present and â??futureâ??, but we need to do it all the same or we will walk straight into a massive trap that has been set for us. Please let us ORGANIZE TOGETHER! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
Letâ??s get this straight: They want you to riot in response to the unfolding MMJ catastrophe and we are already seeing people falling for this.

Why would the authorities want people to riot? Activists will see the answer immediately. They want an excuse to bring in a fully-fledged Police State all over the country and people who riot in their desperation (instigated invariably by agent-provocateurs) are just the excuse they are looking for.

Be very, very aware of anyone who starts rioting, or encourages others to do so, amid peaceful demonstrations. Who are they and why are they doing this when it is handing all the aces to the system to impose a Police State? They are either stupid or agents of that State.


The U.S. Army War College has made the same warnings in a document called Known Unknowns: Unconventional â??Strategic Shocksâ?? in Defense Strategy Development.
It said the military must be prepared for a â??violent, strategic dislocation inside the United Statesâ??, in the light of â??unforeseen economic collapseâ??. Unforeseen?? You must be joking. The document talks of â??purposeful domestic resistanceâ??, â??pervasive public health emergenciesâ?? or â??loss of functioning political and legal orderâ??. It goes on:
â??Widespread civil violence â?¦ would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home.
Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.â??

ONE LOVE !

-Big Pharm helps people with diabetes/high bloodpressure/chronic pain, etc for pennies compared to weed costs.
-Big Pharm produces shots for children ridding our society of diseases that have wiped out whole populations in the past. These shots are nearly free.
-Big Pharm / Government gave my elderly dying relative oxycodone(spelling?) for nearly free compared to weed.
-Big government / Big corporations allow me to drink beer for less than a buck each.
-Big government charges a shzt load of taxes on smokes and they are still less than $1 a gram.

If freedom is street criminals regulating 'by quality and street prices' then I do not want freedom. I don't want the freedom to be a criminal.

If you want to say it's communist to allow all drugs to be legal and regulated by the government, then I saw take away my freedom!

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Originally Posted by seattlegreens

-Big government charges a shzt load of taxes on smokes and they are still less than $1 a gram.

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The quality suffers there, just like with weed that you can buy for that pice...

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Originally Posted by redtails

The quality suffers there, just like with weed that you can buy for that pice...

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Dude, if the big companies produce dirt weed, and sell them in 20 packs for $10 I will be a very happy person.
This will drive down the cost for high quality meds, as now I have another option.
It'd be hard to justify $250 an ounce if tobacco companies are producing dirt weed for $10.

This is more similar to alcohol prohibition.
When the drug beer (dirt weed) was illegal for example, it was very expensive and you could never tell if the quality would be there.
Now, beer is regulated and I have literally hundreds of options at a dirt cheap rate. Low and high quality.
With hard alcohol (premium meds) it was often terrible quality making people go blind. Now, products range between $5 and $500 for a legal, safe bottle.

Why do you believe legalization would cause marijuana to be different than alcohol?

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Originally Posted by seattlegreens

Dude, if the big companies produce dirt weed, and sell them in 20 packs for $10 I will be a very happy person.
This will drive down the cost for high quality meds, as now I have another option.
It'd be hard to justify $250 an ounce if tobacco companies are producing dirt weed for $10.

This is more similar to alcohol prohibition.
When the drug beer (dirt weed) was illegal for example, it was very expensive and you could never tell if the quality would be there.
Now, beer is regulated and I have literally hundreds of options at a dirt cheap rate. Low and high quality.
With hard alcohol (premium meds) it was often terrible quality making people go blind. Now, products range between $5 and $500 for a legal, safe bottle.

Why do you believe legalization would cause marijuana to be different than alcohol?

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