MOTHERLOAD!

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Originally Posted by nugrowr

ok so i messed up? dang man... i dont think ive ever used anything else to grow other than mg with moisture control. but i guess i could understand how that could work. as of right now it will take a day or two to dry out this soil so that is in fact a possibility however during the summer its gonna get pretty hot out here in so cal desert. i just figured it would be cool from past experience. i actually think it might try and flower a bit before the days start getting longer for a few weeks or so but i think it will kick into veg just fine soon if this happens. and i think i will in fact take a few clones after this thing starts picking up the pace

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hey man if it works good for you without any major problems i would not worrie about it stick with what works tha best for ya

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

If you're gonna use moisture retaining soil, I'd un-plant that baby into something smaller, like immediately. You are going to water that thing once, it's gonna weigh 120 lbs or more, and the water is going to lose its O2 (and your plant will drown in soggy soil) before it needs watering again. The roots can't get to all that water in their current form.

Fungus gnats will love that environment, too.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. HTH, Hermie

I think a 400W HPS will handle that plant, as it looks at this point.

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More than 120Lb, way more!. 5 gallon buckets weigh almost 100lb when watered thoroughly. I strained my back carrying those things last Fall...lol!.

water retention soil is a big no no.

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

If you're gonna use moisture retaining soil, I'd un-plant that baby into something smaller, like immediately. You are going to water that thing once, it's gonna weigh 120 lbs or more, and the water is going to lose its O2 (and your plant will drown in soggy soil) before it needs watering again. The roots can't get to all that water in their current form.

Fungus gnats will love that environment, too.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner. HTH, Hermie

I think a 400W HPS will handle that plant, as it looks at this point.

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Hermie is so right man about the roots not growing, or rotting. This will stop all the top growth with small yield if any. A 5 gallon or smaller, then keep re potting to get the roots grown big enough for your big trash can. But in the trash can i might mix your soil with some gravel to give it drainage so air gets to your roots. I grew a giant male:( in a 5 gallon this way and it was huge. It might be more work but you will get more top growth with more yield in the end. They luv getting re potted. IMO they grow faster also.

And Hermie knows what he's doing for sure:thumbsup:

My 2 cents, good luck:rasta:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Hermie is so right man about the roots not growing, or rotting. This will stop all the top growth with small yield if any. A 5 gallon or smaller, then keep re potting to get the roots grown big enough for your big trash can. But in the trash can i might mix your soil with some gravel to give it drainage so air gets to your roots. I grew a giant male:( in a 5 gallon this way and it was huge. It might be more work but you will get more top growth with more yield in the end. They luv getting re potted. IMO they grow faster also.

And Hermie knows what he's doing for sure:thumbsup:

My 2 cents, good luck:rasta:

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Keep in mind, this guy is growing in the desert of Southern CA. from I what I recall by his postings. That is probably why he went hog wild on moisture retention. Under normal rainfall conditions in the Mid-West, you still have to water a 5 gal. bucket on a weekly basis.

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5 gallon buckets weigh almost 100lb when watered thoroughly.

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:wtf:

What you watering with..Deuterium? My water weighs ~8 lb/gallon. :D

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Originally Posted by DreadedHermie

:wtf:

What you watering with..Deuterium? My water weighs ~8 lb/gallon. :D

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I'm not too far off, I just threw one on a scale. It was watered 3 days ago and weighs 60lb. Keeping in mind this plant is only 8 weeks old, at full maturity when freshly watered will weigh close to 100 lb.

You must have acouple bricks on the bottom of the bucket:D Do you have that good of ventilation that you can wet the girls that much and not promote any type of root rot or red stems or anything?

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Originally Posted by sunbiz1

Keep in mind, this guy is growing in the desert of Southern CA. from I what I recall by his postings. That is probably why he went hog wild on moisture retention. Under normal rainfall conditions in the Mid-West, you still have to water a 5 gal. bucket on a weekly basis.

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Well of course it would need watered on a weekly basis. When did i say anything about watering. I said some small gravel will help with drainage. But like Hermie said, the roots will get no air and could rot easy. Its just a lot of soil with out a bunch of roots. So he's going to water and never know if its used by the plant, which will create pockets of wet mud that will smother her. Its much better to start off in a smaller pot to build enough roots to fit the big trash can. If when its watered, the water goes all the way to the bottom. Thats one big pot. lol Not that it couldnt work, all im saying is the roots need built up to fit down in it to allow air in so yield is max. Iv never re potted a plant that didnt take off after.

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alright so its been a while but heres the update. i didnt like the way she looked after a few days so i decided to do it ol country style and i dug a hole. i dug this hole about 4' deep and 3' wide. i then filled this hole with my potting mix while mixing in dirt about half and half... after looking at the rockwool cubes i realized the roots were deep inside so i cut it up to the roots where i could see em then i just planted it.. the holes big enough for all my soil and an equal amount of dirt which is kinda rocky sandy so i think it might help my soil a bit. im in the high desert in california so it gets pretty hot and it should be able to dry out quite a bit during the summer i just need more sunny days because after i planted her it rained for 2 days straight and she stayed out there takin hell and she still survives.. its been all week about 80 or so and i see a small bit of new growth on the bottom but is slow i think the days are still kinda short so its trippen her out a bit. its been about 13 hours or so in my neck of the woods. plus the giant mountain to block the sun. i hope she makes it because its gonna rain again by monday i might just make her a clear cover of some sort. i think she will make it shes pretty tough if i make it to the heat she will do just fine i know it. i just started a little early i think.. pics...