Why we should legalize all drugs
Have you given any consideration to the negative ramifications of prohibitionist policy Wolfgar?
How much of what you attribute to those "evil drugs" cocaine, methamphetamine, and, cough, cough "heroine" are actually the direct result of prohibitionist policy?
Do we really need laws based on bigotry in order to keep us safe Wolfgar?
How can you- on the one hand say you recognize the need to keep these drugs out of the hands of children and the ignorant- than on the other tell us you want to turn over the responsibility for the production and distribution of these so called ??dangerous drugs? to greedy criminal predators via prohibitionist policy who care little about the age or mental stability of their clients?
Why we should legalize all drugs
Wolfgar, have you considered how many people die in the US per year from the use of those "evil drugs" methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin?
(2000) "The leading causes of death in 2000 were tobacco (435,000 deaths; 18.1% of total US deaths), poor diet and physical inactivity (400,000 deaths; 16.6%), and alcohol consumption (85,000 deaths; 3.5%). Other actual causes of death were microbial agents (75,000), toxic agents (55,000), motor vehicle crashes (43,000), incidents involving firearms (29,000), sexual behaviors
(20,000), and illicit use of drugs (17,000)."
Ahhh yes, around 17,000 for ALL illicit drugs combined. Can't you find a better way to save us all from ourselves than throwing us in jail for ingesting our drug(s) of choice?
Why we should legalize all drugs
The stats u brought out might be true, but this isnt about how ppl die, this is about how ppl live.
Making something illegal wont stop it. Making something legal means that you have a right to do it. Even the ppl who write the laws understand this. Still just because druggies will have an easier life and be less criminal isn't justification for legalization.I personally don't want my 18yr old kid coming to me saying...ill do meth if i want its my right to do so.
If you buy an island in international waters you can make your own rules. A lot easier than moving an entire country into seeing things your way.Unless ofc you have billions to spend on advertising ...
I doubt the legalize all drugs attitude you have is shared by many ppl in America anyway. Which btw is where i base all my words from. I hate when every American on forums types like its the only place on the planet... I may have been doing that already... :stoned:
So i ask you as a favor to potheads everywhere, use your activist soul to help legalize cannabis(again like only place on planet :(). After all isn't it best to get the low hanging fruit first?:rastasmoke::thumbsup: If u must work on the others after....freedom is a luxury millions have died for use it well.
Why we should legalize all drugs
I also don't want my kid leaking his brains all over the pavement from a drunken accident. I wouldn't want my daughter smoking cigs for 20 years and end up sounding like a rusty old man either. Either way you look at it though drugs are going to be there. At least if they were legal they would be regulated and probably less dangerous. It's important to teach your kids the effects of anything foreign in their body. Don't think just because I smoke a lot of reefer that I don't think it has some negative side effects. That's something I wouldn't hesitate to pass on to the next generation as well. That said, I definitely wouldn't want my kids turning into dope heads/ meth addicts. :jointsmile:
Why we should legalize all drugs
people should be able to do anything they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. i wouldnt want a bunch of people drivin around on crack but if hard drugs were regulated really well that might be okay. i would definetely stick w/ bud tho.
Why we should legalize all drugs
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The stats u brought out might be true, but this isnt about how ppl die, this is about how ppl live.
Through prohibitionist policy we promote human misery, suffering and death. It impacts how we LIVE and DIE.
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Making something illegal wont stop it. Making something legal means that you have a right to do it. Even the ppl who write the laws understand this.
And your point?
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Still just because druggies will have an easier life and be less criminal isn't justification for legalization.I personally don't want my 18yr old kid coming to me saying...ill do meth if i want its my right to do so.
The law as it currently exists isn??t keeping your 18 year old from using meth. Prohibitionist policy makes it more dangerous for your child to use meth and rewards criminal predators who would encourage your 18 year old to use meth.
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If you buy an island in international waters you can make your own rules. A lot easier than moving an entire country into seeing things your way.Unless ofc you have billions to spend on advertising ...
Like a Nazi in pre-world war II Germany telling a Jew to get a boat ride out of the country if he doesn??t like the way things are going. Ridiculous. How do you come up with that stuff?
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I doubt the legalize all drugs attitude you have is shared by many ppl in America anyway.
So when the majority opinion is contrary to yours you just pack it in and give up?
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So i ask you as a favor to potheads everywhere, use your activist soul to help legalize cannabis(again like only place on planet :(). After all isn't it best to get the low hanging fruit first?:rastasmoke::thumbsup: If u must work on the others after....freedom is a luxury millions have died for use it well.
I ask you as a favor to human beings everywhere to snap out of your fog and consider someting beyond yourself and what is best for users and non-users alike as well as the millions of future deaths that will result if we don??t cease and desist this crazy ??drug war" on our people.
Why we should legalize all drugs
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It is my opinion that hard drugs, meth, coke/crack, heroine,ect should stay illegal because of the negative impacts they have on individuals. I think they will be illegal because of the negative impacts they have on society. That being said the penalties for them are insane in the u.s.
Almost everyone i hung out with as a kid(from a suburb)were big time on meth,of all that were(i am 30 now) have few teeth,their face is messed up(scars,meth lip), no future,some of them are in prison from the government. all of them regret it(except the dead ones)...why would anyone benefit from it being legal? You know what ...imo everyone on the planet earth has a duty to mankind to stop that crap from entering the life of the young and dumb if the government wants a crack at it thats fine by me...they just need to smoke a joint while they do it...POT IS NOT A DRUG...i said it so it must be true :)
i disagree. people on the these hard drugs (my quote: hard nugs not hard drugs) need help getting of these same drugs. prisons are nothing more than businesses with no moral compasses. they do nothing to correct people as their title claims. how about forced rehab with actual couselers , educators and doctors. in the end it would save taxpayer money. i suppose some idiot would abuse that job, suck this ill get what you want. aaaarrrgh people are all stupid and it will be our undoing.
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I also don't want my kid leaking his brains all over the pavement from a drunken accident. I wouldn't want my daughter smoking cigs for 20 years and end up sounding like a rusty old man either. Either way you look at it though drugs are going to be there. At least if they were legal they would be regulated and probably less dangerous. It's important to teach your kids the effects of anything foreign in their body. Don't think just because I smoke a lot of reefer that I don't think it has some negative side effects. That's something I wouldn't hesitate to pass on to the next generation as well. That said, I definitely wouldn't want my kids turning into dope heads/ meth addicts. :jointsmile:
if there is a negative side effect to mj it hasnt been found yet (other than prison). its older than prostitution and used just as much.
Why we should legalize all drugs
weed is not a drug,its a herb and benaficial.drugs are not.anyone who classifies weed as a drug is a idiot.so when some one said drugs should be legalized is fuckin stupid.fuckin idiot.
Why we should legalize all drugs
Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, orange juice, morphine, Count Chocula, weed.
They all alter our body chemistry. Virtually everything we take into our bodies including O2 changes us physiologically. Obviously some, more than others.
I'm in the middle of an experiment (if I can get the d** plant to grow) to find out if a little smoke will get me off Zoloft for depression, Xanax for anxiety and Elavil to get me to sleep at night. All of those chemicals are hard on my body and if a natural, growing herb like weed will do that, then it can only be good.
But I also have to wonder what the world would be like if we legalized heroin, for example. Personally, being an abuser, I'd probably get hooked and die in 6 months. Most of my family and friends would too. The reality is that I wouldn't try it, for that reason, but when I have surgery or a tooth extracted and the doc gives me a scrip for Vicodin, by the time it's gone, I'm looking for more.
That stuff is nasty. It's no different than heroin, except for potency, and I'd take it until it killed me.
The major difference between every substance we use is - physical vs. psychological addiction.
If something is physically addicting, it should be illegal.
If something is only psychologically addicting (like weed AND video games AND chocolate) it should be legal.
Caffeine headaches during withdrawal are like migranes. I've been chewing nicotine gum for 20 years. I've been on Xanax for 4 years and the doctor never mentioned physical addiction. I quit taking it one week last year and I've never been that sick in my life. I was awake for 144 hours straight and dry-heaved for 3 days. I had no idea it was Xanax withdrawal until I came across an article on it and put it all together.
Major pharmaceutical companies stand to loose a lot of money if we start legalizing drugs. Nicotine kills us and we became a nation of addicts while tobacco companies made billions.
Ban caffeine, ban nicotine, ban Xanax and alcohol, but weed? Something else is going on here and I'd make a wild guess that it has something to do with money and Corporate entities.
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