I really like the idea of making humbolt like the napa valley for bud tourists. :pimp: Can you imagine visting each herb shop and trying a small sample and picking up a bud or two of the ones you really like. :stoned: I'd be on the first flight.
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I really like the idea of making humbolt like the napa valley for bud tourists. :pimp: Can you imagine visting each herb shop and trying a small sample and picking up a bud or two of the ones you really like. :stoned: I'd be on the first flight.
they fear change...you can't save the dinosaurs....as world changes we all need to change with it and GROW with it...not fight it....they will figure out how to survive economically and i believe it will be for the better:jointsmile:
what a joke. Lets call "legalization" what it really is..."control and regulation of Medical Marijuana."
If this bill passes it is going to make a mockery of what we have been doing for over 15 years in California. It is not about recreational use, its about helping those who need it.
The people pushing this bill are the ones who will profit from it initially...the big dispensaries. So read the bill completely...and think about who this really benefits. It even clearly states that localities that do not want distribution centers...will not have it...thus, driving business to Oakland...RICHARD LEE...and the big dispensaries.
Follow the dollar people. Follow the dollar.:jointsmile:
This also need to be said...WHEN CALIFORNIA PASSES THIS BILL, the Federal government is going to fuck with ALL GROWERS...even the ones who are growing for medical purposes. It is going to bring all the fire and brimstone that Washington D.C. can throw at us.
And, like others have said...it does nothing to change the federal laws. People will still be too afraid to grow hemp commercially...and it will all still be very underground (if not more so than now).
i think that if cali passes an i hope to have my vote count it will force change in the federal level how are you going to police the 31 million people in the state with a laws that are legal in the state the dea doesn't have the man power to do so nor the fbi then we should expect the domino effect to take place with the rest of the states any court case brought up in them will have the sentence
"but it's legal in california how can you hold me accountable by law when the federal gov. allows it to be legal in cali by what right oes this state have to pass judgment on me"
if it were just a mere ticket for being caught say 50-100 dollars i'd be fine
with that even
but we all ways go back to
IT'S MY BODY WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN NOT DO TO IT!
i feel this should be the end of the conversation
i eat,sleep,shit,fuck how i want and it has nothing to do with you so leave me to myself and you worry about yourself
thing you need to remeber is no matter whats said and what the laws are, the states pretty much do WTF they want, and 99% of the time, the federal gvernment doesnt say shit...
example:
in the state of california, there are quite a few firearms that are deemed as and listed as "assault weapons" and are illegal here, even though they are FULLY legal on the federal level.
full auto firearms are illegal within several states, including calfornia, but are 100% LEGAL at the federal level, and easily transferable.
the US supreme court has ruled in favor of the second amendment on several occasions ( most recent being heller vs district of columbia),but yet the STATES pretty much decide what THEY are going to permit to be legal and what their NOT going to permit to be legal. there shouldnt be any legal federally but not at state level, and vise verse. another example, several states now have as much as told the federal government to go get screwed in asmuch as they have deemed that if i firearms manufactured in that specific state and isnt going to be removed from the state, it shouldnt have to be registered or declared to the federal government because it was purchased within the state by a state resident ,and manufactured within the state, leaving the federal government completely out of the equation. i thi nk what will happen is as always, california will pass it and legalize it, and we will be sort of the guinea pig state as always. once its worked here for awhile, other states ( especially the pro-MMJ states) will also pass similar laws, and when that happens, the feds will have to eventually consider legalization....do you realize that there are a bunch of states that can legally WITHDRAWL from the united states at anytime they wish? check it out. several states had withdrawl clauses added when they joined the union ( such as texas,montana,ect).
personally, i think that if somethings legal o n the state level and not legal on the federal level ( or vise verse) it sould be considered discrimination. hell, its like 75 miles from me they can own and do all sorts of stuff legally that i cant, just because i live in this shithole of a state. somehow that just isnt right.
i cant WAIT until the people vote it in. you know humbolt county is already sniveling and crying because their economies going to collapse if its made legal for everyone in the state because humbolt counties main source of ncome is illegal pot growers....BOO HOO!
i dont think so bro. i think that while it may ruffle their feathers, i dont think they will slam like that. they would have to move the fucking army into the state and arrest millions! that aint gonna happenQuote:
Originally Posted by martyrprojekt
plus the feds do recognize that California w/o the rest of the 49 states is the 6th largest economy in the world on its own so we pay our fair share of taxes which is all the feds really want and if they are garnering tax money from MJ sales through legal stores then it is game over...no one is gonna fuck with the money train!:thumbsup:
my thoughts exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by stra8outtaWeed
PLUS, its not only the actual profits ganed by TAXING, but also the literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people that will literally pack teir shit and move TO california literally overnight. theres money there, more income for the state.
although that could be a double edged sword. we would have to put them to work growing weed cause there wont be any JOBS for them!
Miscog...Quote:
Originally Posted by Micsog
The Federal Government will never back down. The Demo-rats could barely pass health care without sweetheart deals cut in the back room for the blue dogs. Obama has increased funding for the war on drugs...with the lionshare of those appropriations being spent on Schedule 1 "DRUGS"...which marijuana is still Federally classified as (schedule 1). The Republi-cant's simply won't change anything...and would prefer to put us all in prison...or in Guantanamo Bay!
They may not have the manpower to combat 35 million potential users...but, they have virtually unlimited funds to raid and preosecute the shit out of people like you and me, without increasing their current budgets levels. They will take everything we own to make an example of us through the media and our court system. These kinds of Law Enforcement tactics have worked for hundreds of years in eliminating the opposition. Gestepo...CIA...KGB...California Highway Patrol...etc.etc. Would you risk using (even though legal) for recreational purposes, if the DEA could slam down your front door, and throw you in jail?
This law has the potential of fucking us all, and killing an industry before it gets off the ground...whether its commercial hemp farming, or dispensaries for medical and recreational use...there is way too much to take into consideration.
For example: How are they supposed to enforce DWI laws. There is no breathalizer for marijuana DWI cases. They have to rely on a blood or urine specimen collected at their processing centers. Those tests will of course test positive for people like me. Even though I only smoke at night.
We are not ready for this law yet. Not at all.
Shasta----you said something previously about the cost of bud going down when its available everywhere. In the legal language of this bill, your locality can outlaw dispensaries and distribution. The counties also can open their own COUNTY-RUN dispensaries (controlling the pricing and the market). Thus, creating a micro-market. This will keep prices sky high. Not to mention...government will never let a private citizen make money on something they can make money with. They hate competition, and will use their local law enforcement goons to keep you in check.
Not to mention the fact that California's products will continue to be shipped, and distributed, around the country...where smart individuals can get up to $500-600 per ounce of AAA quality buds, when they only paid a grower $200 per ounce.
If the law passes...there will be a huge increase in demand...and every illegal and legal grower will make a fucking fortune. The issue at hand is not the growers losing money...it is about the over-stretching hand of Government being put into place to regulate, distribute, and collect taxes from all of us. That is the issue at hand.
Look at how well they have handled Medicare, Social Security, Department of Education, Homeland Security, DEA, FBI, local law enforcement, prisons...etc.etc.etc. This is why our country (and states) are broke...too much regulation and taxation, with the governments hand in every cookie jar.
A yes vote for this bill will kill what we have all worked so hard for. We need to keep our eye on the prize. We need to reschedule marijuana federally as a Class 2, or Class 3, drug. Then we can focus on decriminalization. Put the pressure on your Representatives in Congress, The Senate...and the President to do the right thing. This whole bill is backwards dealings by the dispensaries.