more trash legislation: HB1284

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

yea i'd say 99%.believe it or not alot of patients are for shit like this.for some odd reason they think mmj should be totally free.so the enemy to these people are the shops.what they don't know and understand is that ever time a bill passes it's another victory in the books for the real crooks.

it's odd to me that these same people that think it should be free and shops are the bad guys and evil for charging what they charge are just fine on the tax part of it.so it's ok for the gov to get a cut but if a shop trys to make a living well thats just evil.

but this is why these pricks like romer get away with all the bs he is pulling.to many people are divided.and the rest think it will be ok.these pricks will stop at nothing to get control back.you will see a sea of bills washing in.they won't stop these lil bills are'nt shit compared to what is coming.

we can't wait for research to come out on their end as to weather it is bad or not.yes we all know it is not bad at all.they know this too.these so called groups like norml and such need to get off their asses and start getting the truth out on a much bigger scale.i say we need to do what ever it takes to make/build our own media outlet.we can't wait on pricks like fox,cnn so on to tell the truth for us.stop with all the passive bs all ready it will get us nowhere fast.we need to have our own outlet and not only talk about the facts of mj but to also call fowl on these pricks like romer that has only his and his keepers agenda at heart.

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i can see the non-profit thing passing (as much as they dissed california and this would make it just like california. and how many non profits pay taxes?)...but as for the rest of that...i'm not quite sure. Romer isn't popular-he tried to pass the 5 patient rule before and pretty much got his ass handed to him both times.

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Originally Posted by CannnaLady

i can see the non-profit thing passing (as much as they dissed california and this would make it just like california. and how many non profits pay taxes?)...but as for the rest of that...i'm not quite sure. Romer isn't popular-he tried to pass the 5 patient rule before and pretty much got his ass handed to him both times.

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this could be true but they won't stop.it will be attack after attack until they get what they want.

It seems Corry is interested in this section of the Amendment to our Constitution:

Not later than April 30, 2001, the General Assembly shall define such terms and enact such legislation as may be necessary for implementation of this section, as well as determine and enact criminal penalties for...

so is it done? will this all get tossed by the Courts once the legislature is done? The Court has been much more favorable to MMJ than the legislature.

i guess it would really depend on the money factor (as always). The tax money that's generated form this, as well as the real estate and job boost is hard to ignore even for people that aren't part of the Medical Marijuana Scene. If it gets limited to 5 patients per primary caregiver it will shut down dispensaries-and there goes the tax revanue and here comes the biggest black market marijuana scene you've ever seen. If the cities are going through all these licensing and regulation bills-they obviously want the money. I think it won't pass (the 5 patient rule) just for the money factor. The Non-Profit regulation may pass-which isn't too bad, just more of a pain in the ass. As for going before a jury at the state with all those public opinions blah blah blah blah...I really don't seeing this pass...or if it gets close, lawyers are going to go buck crazy on them. I am not too worried.

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Originally Posted by copobo

It seems Corry is interested in this section of the Amendment to our Constitution:

Not later than April 30, 2001, the General Assembly shall define such terms and enact such legislation as may be necessary for implementation of this section, as well as determine and enact criminal penalties for...

so is it done? will this all get tossed by the Courts once the legislature is done? The Court has been much more favorable to MMJ than the legislature.

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This is the golden argument here, they had their chance to make amendments, and did so back in 2001, they cannot have a second bite of the apple.

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Originally Posted by GratefulMeds

This is the golden argument here, they had their chance to make amendments, and did so back in 2001, they cannot have a second bite of the apple.

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and still they persist. anything we want to keep seems to cost more on our side. oh and i almost forgot yeeeaaahhhh , their traitors.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

Many parts of the bill are actually unconstitutional (as in federally), including a bit that is requiring patients to essentially forefit their right to not self-incriminate. It's a real gem of a bill that was clearly written by someone who knows the issues of the MMJ community inside-out and thoroughly researched and vetted the bill in the context of past jurisprudence.........

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These idiots will watch this bill get absolutely shredded by an army of lawyers representing patients. The state will spend more in legal fees than it has already swindled into the general fund via the MMJ registry and will decide that it's not worth fighting... That is if this bill (or the other one proposed by Massey) even goes anywhere...

You can listen to what's going on right now over the internet. Grateful Meds in Nederland is speaking now.

Colorado General Assembly: Audio

Click on "Old Supreme Court Chambers" in the lower right side of the screen.

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Originally Posted by MMJinColorado

Many parts of the bill are actually unconstitutional (as in federally), including a bit that is requiring patients to essentially forefit their right to not self-incriminate. It's a real gem of a bill that was clearly written by someone who knows the issues of the MMJ community inside-out and thoroughly researched and vetted the bill in the context of past jurisprudence.........

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These idiots will watch this bill get absolutely shredded by an army of lawyers representing patients. The state will spend more in legal fees than it has already swindled into the general fund via the MMJ registry and will decide that it's not worth fighting... That is if this bill (or the other one proposed by Massey) even goes anywhere...

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yea i have been thinking about this on the federal lvl.feds keep coming after people, patients mainly.im wondering why they are not going after the contract holders"the state" when the state put it in as law to me that was like a contract.with the state in full control of it so why can/do they bust the comon folks but not the party that is at the top of it? with the state saying it's ok they should be the ones accountable first since they are the ones that said yes go ahead it's ok.

they are more at fault for shops and patients using than the people are.you would think they should be the ones delt with first.just goes to show how it's all about money.but only the peoples money.this point im making right here shows the flaws in the feds thinking.not it's still illegal on a fed lvl.ok then you should be going after the state for going against you not the people.are we not told all the time to follow state law?

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

yea i have been thinking about this on the federal lvl.feds keep coming after people, patients mainly.im wondering why they are not going after the contract holders"the state" when the state put it in as law to me that was like a contract.with the state in full control of it so why can/do they bust the comon folks but not the party that is at the top of it? with the state saying it's ok they should be the ones accountable first since they are the ones that said yes go ahead it's ok.

they are more at fault for shops and patients using than the people are.you would think they should be the ones delt with first.just goes to show how it's all about money.but only the peoples money.this point im making right here shows the flaws in the feds thinking.not it's still illegal on a fed lvl.ok then you should be going after the state for going against you not the people.are we not told all the time to follow state law?

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I'm sorry, but your entire post is nonsensical. What contract are you referring to? Are you suggesting that the "state" should go to jail? What does that even mean? How do you prosecute an inanimate entity criminally? All the "state" actually did was provide for the amendment of its constitution by referendum. You must have some hella killer weed. Sorry, "medicine."