led vs hps?

i first added 2 of the LED bars to the outer edges of my plants and my yield increased from around 350gr per tray to 400gr per tray....i removed 1 of the 1000w HPS and placed 3 150w LED bars over one of my trays to see how they would do alone and the plants under the other 1000w in the next tray all started leaning to the LED's so i removed it and have been growing with nothing but LED's for about 4 months now! i have had 2 complete harvests with the LED's and the first one was 463gr and the ones i just took down this week shuold yield about the same...so i am producing around 1 gram/watt with my setup! :thumbsup:

after doing more research on the LED's and noticing more plant mass and healthier root zones it only makes sense that yields will increase with using the proper wavelengths corresponding with photosynthesis!:jointsmile:

the LED's i use have 52 3w LED's per 40" bar :cool:

Do your own research. All the facts are right here on this site. Weezard is growing using 15 watts per emitter technology that leaves all these "advanced lighting companies" in the dust. He had to cut back his production techniques to stay legal!

I have no interest in selling you any lights or changing what you do or the way you grow, BTW. As far as I'm concerned you can grow with a candle and a magnifying glass if it makes you happy.

Just trying to suggest that you do a bit more research.

M.P.

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Originally Posted by MerryPrankstr

Do your own research. All the facts are right here on this site. Weezard is growing using 15 watts per emitter technology that leaves all these "advanced lighting companies" in the dust. He had to cut back his production techniques to stay legal!

I have no interest in selling you any lights or changing what you do or the way you grow, BTW. As far as I'm concerned you can grow with a candle and a magnifying glass if it makes you happy.

Just trying to suggest that you do a bit more research.

M.P.

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I have heard the claims, seen the pics, it's still tough to believe. Even at a gram a watt you would need 2000 or so watts to match a couple 1Kwatt hps at least. In LEDs that's a bundle of money.

Sorry I "called BS".

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Originally Posted by jakester

What is your yield like with the LED VS the HPS? How about light penetration?

I would call BS...I would also love to be wrong.;)

Well then. I'm about to make you happy.:)

It's tough to believe that little LEDs can throw as much energy into a fruiting plant as an HPS.

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Yes, it is tough.
But, belief is not required, my friend.

First.
Any commercial offering that still uses 1 Watt emitters is obsolete.
Do not waste your time and money on them.
They are just re-packaged UFOs.
I have tried the UFOs
They grow bud, but not very well.

And, like you, I was skeptical 'bout leds too.
Even DIY was more than I wanted to spend.
But, we pay half a buck per kwh, so, I can't afford to run a big HPS.
I was kinda forced to try leds.
I'm just lucky that way.:)

The Procyon is a good unit but Pricey, so I've never had the opportunity to test one.
My homebrew lamps rival natural sunshine, but I'm not selling them, or anything, for that matter. (I is retired:jointsmile:)

When my first 3W and 5W emitter based units actually grew decent bud I was stoked!
The Theoreme and the Lumigrow look like good products and Old Mac uses and loves the Theoreme lights.
But, at skywards of $1000 they were not in my budget.
So, I designed and built my own and started doing side by side grows.
I've never been fond of HPS and decided that only trying to grow "just as well" as HPS showed a lack of ambition.:)

So, head to head with tropical sunlight.
You might want to check my albums.

My motivation?
Better meds for everyone, no charge.:cool:

Aloha,
Weezard

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Originally Posted by MerryPrankstr

Look up posts from Weezard.

He ran his own home made LED against outdoor grows and his LEDs won in terms of looks, smell potency and yield, IIRC.
He's a legal grower in Hawaii, BTW. The sun is real good there.

Mahalo, MP

"I run LEDs, too, but am not as adept."
Hah!
No sell yerself short.
You got skills.
Your grows impressed me.
I'll leave ya my light and some seeds when I croak.
Then we shall see some super girls.
Seriously, I have a list of folks to send my gear to when I no need it anymore.


What?!

Jus' wanna hook the best growers up with the best tools.:thumbsup:

Weed should be free,
and as sweet as it can be.
Turn a shrub into a tree
Excellence made real E Z.


Keep in mind.


I just chose, and then cross bred,
Strains that love to see a led.
And I use hydro nutes in coco.
Though dirt farmers called me loco
That alone gives me an edge.
My light rivals da sun, for buds.
And beats ol' sol, hands down, for veg!:D

The down side?

My HI Homie III cross is not even viable outdoors.
The buds are too fat and dense to shed water properly.
If they get spritzed, they retain the water and it stagnates and rots the bud.:(

The up-front cost is very high now. Most of the lamps you see hawked are getting mighty close to snake-oil territory. BUt if you can get your hands on some serious LED gear you will see that it cango toe to toe with HIDs and be a serious contender.

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Wait, what?
I coulda been a contenda?!
Instead of a lazy gecko?!
Which, is what I am.:cool:
Now ya tells me.;)

Aloha brah, I miss your growlog.

Wee zard

Weez,
Just straightening up some stuff on my end and hopefully I'll be back in the saddle and posting regularly again.

Thanks for the previous post and your very kind words.

Just a bit longer, Brah !

M.P.

Do the units need an amp or special driver? Anyone have any schematic info to share? I would love to try one if I could build it for a decent price.

Jakester


Start here

Then you can ask Weezard questions from there:


Enjoy!

M.P.

Thanks!