Lady Bugs?

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

Illinois, for instance, has an infestation of what the folks there, call a Japanese beetle (dunno if the name is accurate) ... looks just like a regular ladybug, except, they are a bit more 'orange-red', instead of 'red' ... and, they BITE like crazy :wtf: ... they also make short work of plants, devouring leaves, only leaving the veins ... nasty little bastards :wtf:

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Wrong, they are identical to ladybugs in diet.

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Originally Posted by mainegrown

well these arnt even on the leaes for the most part and they are very 'red' red not 'orange' red... hope i dont have to get rid of the lil buggers. ;)

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Leave em. If they are japanese lady beetles you will know by the M or W pattern on their face and they have more dots and lighter red than lady bugs. Somewhere along the line someone started saying that they eat plants and someone believed him. I am not going to wiki this for you peeps....they DO NOT eat plants.

Now box elder bugs...if you see one of those bastards kill it unless you like random partial topping of all your new growth. They are great fim'ers.

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Originally Posted by jakester

Now box elder bugs...if you see one of those bastards kill it unless you like random partial topping of all your new growth. They are great fim'ers.

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I have alot of boxelders crawling around and they don't seem to cause any problems. I've heard some others say the same.

I'm curious though... have you had a run-in with these suckers? I see them on my plants, but they mainly seem to be there to get closer to the "sun". I've never seen them feeding and I have found only minimal leaf damage that could be attributed to pH problems.

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Originally Posted by lampost

I have alot of boxelders crawling around and they don't seem to cause any problems. I've heard some others say the same.

I'm curious though... have you had a run-in with these suckers? I see them on my plants, but they mainly seem to be there to get closer to the "sun". I've never seen them feeding and I have found only minimal leaf damage that could be attributed to pH problems.

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They don't eat a lot but they do indeed feed on young green growth, I have seen the damage being done. Get em out of there!

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Originally Posted by jakester

They don't eat a lot but they do indeed feed on young green growth, I have seen the damage being done. Get em out of there!

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I'm going to keep an eye on these suckers. I don't think I'll be able to ever completely eliminate them. I live in an old shitty house with cracks and crevices and they are getting in pretty easily. I'm going to put a Hot Shot NPS in, but I'm sure they'll return immediately afterward.

Thanks for the info. It's probably the neem oil I've been using that's keeping them from eating the plants. But I'm going to have to stop spraying 2-3 weeks into flowering. I wonder what else I could use on these fuckers after that?

These bugs seem to be very aware when I'm nearby. I can see them kinda "tense up" as I approach them or reach for them. I hate these fuckers... they've been a nuisance in my homes since I was a kid...

hey, i forgot to ask...

are ladybugs very effective against spider mites? i currently don't have any mites that I'm aware of... i did bring some in on clones, but i think i killed them.

so would ladybugs be an effective preventative introduced at 3-5 weeks flowering? i understand you need to leave them some sugar water too if the prey isn't established?

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Originally Posted by lampost

hey, i forgot to ask...

are ladybugs very effective against spider mites? i currently don't have any mites that I'm aware of... i did bring some in on clones, but i think i killed them.

so would ladybugs be an effective preventative introduced at 3-5 weeks flowering? i understand you need to leave them some sugar water too if the prey isn't established?

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Maybe the ladybugs need sugar water...the lady beetles don't. I know what you mean about the box elders..they're creepy the way they "see" you. I don't think they are a real serious problem since they eat little but I would definitely get some sticky traps and throw em out when you can.

...and to be honest, I have never seen spider mites (knock on wood) and ladybugs in the same area so I really don't know.

These Japanese Lady beetles might not feed on leaves but they do secrete a yellowish secretion and a stench if messed with or threatened. My person preference is to not allow any bugs in my room. If I see a fly I charge it with a fly swatter! ATTACK!:stoned:

Some say that the Japanese Lady beetle is somewhat a bad insect since it eats other beneficial bugs and larvae of butterflys for instance.

The Japanese Beetle, is different and does eat leaves down to their veins. Japanese Lady beetles, which are the ones that look very close to ladybugs, supposedly don't eat leaves. It's possible while munching on an aphid it could damage a leaf. Who knows! I do know that wiki is a terrible resource and not recognized as credible in any university. :stoned:

I agree that this site has changed A LOT since I joined. Mostly negatively. :(

well I have 2 diffrent grow spots about 8 miles apart, The rooms here I get thripes every time they get sprayed with perithum and then watered with nematoads for the eggs. this works every time, However my other 2 rooms across town have natural lady bugs I see on the plants all the time.And never have had miyes, thrips, or any bugs yet. I believe in my ladybugs.