GOD CREATED ALL OF THIS!

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Originally Posted by gypski

No? There had to be something and its certainly not some guy sitting in the sky making book on all humanity. If you believe the guy in the sky thing, where did he come from? Its nature and science will prove it. :D

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you see he's not just "some guy" sitting out in the clouds.. he's GOD. Something waaaaayyyy greater than ANY human. He has always been and always will be. And you just have to accept that because frankly, theres NO other explanation. Especiallly in "science" terms.

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

I don't have to assume anything. I require evidence pure and simple. Like I say if you've got that hotline to the big guy have him give me a call and we'll see if he can convince me..

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Well than jerkoff, wheres your evidence? NO evidence you can get will prove the creation of the universe or better yet, what was BEFORE the creation of our universe. So please, SHUT UP!!!

This guy has to be a troll. I'm not wasting any more of my time on him.

I came across this Perry guy and his information theory. I found one his premise quite interesting... DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism. All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is not natural process known to science that creates coded information. Therefore DNA was designed by a Mind.

i understand the feeling some have to want the control, purpose, and sense of "something in control- aka: god" with some "greater plan." they attribute all that doesn't currently make sense to their minds and that causes unsurity and fear to a "big brother" or "big father" in the sky looking out for their good...

i understand the innate or, to use a pun, "god-given" need others have to not blindly believe tales they are told that attempt to box in the vast enigma of life and existence to some oversimplified set of rules that are constantly changing from century to century called religion and called god.

to each their own...

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Originally Posted by Blazed Deafy

I came across this Perry guy and his information theory. I found one his premise quite interesting... DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism. All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is not natural process known to science that creates coded information. Therefore DNA was designed by a Mind.

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This is merely restating the creationist platform. Life itself is a natural process that creates coded information. Perry immediately discounts that, so it is not possible to go any further in the debate. He and his minions claim it has to occur by design. Opponents to this position claim it occurs naturally. Stalemate.

For anyone interested in the scientific rebuttal of this "challenge", here is a good article by Richard Dawkins: The Information Challenge | Australian Skeptics

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Originally Posted by hazetwostep

i understand the feeling some have to want the control, purpose, and sense of "something in control- aka: god" with some "greater plan." they attribute all that doesn't currently make sense to their minds and that causes unsurity and fear to a "big brother" or "big father" in the sky looking out for their good...

i understand the innate or, to use a pun, "god-given" need others have to not blindly believe tales they are told that attempt to box in the vast enigma of life and existence to some oversimplified set of rules that are constantly changing from century to century called religion and called god.

to each their own...

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yes.. plz go on living your pointless, worthless life. Well, according to you that IS REALLY how you feel about your life? I mean you seriously have no question on to how you got here? or what happens after you die? you just think that BAM! time was created and so was everything else and it all just came together like this on accident? haha THAT IS WHAT SOUNDS STUPID!!! Not the belief of GOD. lol

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Originally Posted by BlueBlazer

This is merely restating the creationist platform. Life itself is a natural process that creates coded information. Perry immediately discounts that, so it is not possible to go any further in the debate. He and his minions claim it has to occur by design. Opponents to this position claim it occurs naturally. Stalemate.

For anyone interested in the scientific rebuttal of this "challenge", here is a good article by Richard Dawkins: The Information Challenge | Australian Skeptics

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yea but the one thing is that the opponets are wrong. THE OPPONENTS believe life comes from nowhere!!! Thats incomprehensible for a human. That's why you have to accept that their is something bigger, and better than us! Once you do that you'll feel ALOT better :)

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Originally Posted by Blazed Deafy

I came across this Perry guy and his information theory. I found one his premise quite interesting... DNA is not merely a molecule with a pattern; it is a code, a language, and an information storage mechanism. All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is not natural process known to science that creates coded information. Therefore DNA was designed by a Mind.

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It must have taken billions of years for your guy in the sky to write all that code, or its simply mutation after mutation and mistakes in the development or evolution of DNA and the diversity of species. Then because he got tired of his mistakes, he destroyed them and started anew. Or from random acts of nature through the geologic activities of the planet wiping them out and natural selection let the strongest, and smartest to survive. I believe in the random and natural selection. :D

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Originally Posted by chris62008

yea but the one thing is that the opponets are wrong. THE OPPONENTS believe life comes from nowhere!!! Thats incomprehensible for a human. That's why you have to accept that their is something bigger, and better than us! Once you do that you'll feel ALOT better :)

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OK, so I have some time to waste . . . :smokin:


You have convinced me with your impeccable logic. I now believe in a higher, better being than me. I now worship Bacchus.

Because only a truly wasted god would create us. :thumbsup: